Make sure diet is in check because this is the most important part of losing weight. I would suggest tryingor 500-XT by Finaflex. is a little strornger then on the stim side of things, (not as strong as DMAA though), but both offer great appetite supression and thermogenic effects as well as a feeling of well being. There are quite a few logs ongoing right now where loggers are having tremendous results from Pro Xanthine losing up to 9lbs with a single bottle. If you have any questions about either product feel free to PM me.