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I was wondering of there are any new promising supplement ingredients out there..E.g. nitrates
 

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Tropinol XP contains a good amount of Nitrates. Will help with giving you an awesome pump and the overall formula is an awesome recomp agent.
 
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Max Pump has 3g of Betaine Nitrate. Noticeable endurnace and lactic acid buffering effects as well as all day pumps when used as directed. The best supplement to hit the market in a long time.
 
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I'm going to run the max pump once my lean xtreme/alphaburn is up and I start up the new oxyelite powder. Hoping for some nice vascularity with the leaning effects from oxyelite. Can't wait to see what betaine is all about.
 
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Max Pump has 3g of Betaine Nitrate. Noticeable endurnace and lactic acid buffering effects as well as all day pumps when used as directed. The best supplement to hit the market in a long time.
Agreed. I've loved my runs of Max Pump.

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I'm going to run the max pump once my lean xtreme/alphaburn is up and I start up the new oxyelite powder. Hoping for some nice vascularity with the leaning effects from oxyelite. Can't wait to see what betaine is all about.
Sounds like a good combo. The all day pumps and vascularity are very very nice, but the increased endurance and lactic acid buffering effects make it unbeatable. In my log I was able to up my reps and weights on almost every single lift from those two factors.
 
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Sounds like a good combo. The all day pumps and vascularity are very very nice, but the increased endurance and lactic acid buffering effects make it unbeatable. In my log I was able to up my reps and weights on almost every single lift from those two factors.
Even more excited then. Can't wait. Two more weeks roughly.
 

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Wasn't there some contest to win a combo of products from this company? Oh well I have some creatine nitrate I need to run through first.. Any ideas about what benefits the betaine nitrate has over the CN?
 
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Wasn't there some contest to win a combo of products from this company? Oh well I have some creatine nitrate I need to run through first.. Any ideas about what benefits the betaine nitrate has over the CN?
A still ongoing contest for Finaflex products actually. The most active poster on our home forum wins $500 dollars worth of Finaflex supps. 2nd is $250. 3rd is $100.
 
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Wasn't there some contest to win a combo of products from this company? Oh well I have some creatine nitrate I need to run through first.. Any ideas about what benefits the betaine nitrate has over the CN?
And from my understanding creatine nitrate is just a more soluable form. Two toatly different products.
 

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And from my understanding creatine nitrate is just a more soluable form. Two toatly different products.
They're not different at all. Both are nitrate salts, and both enhance performance via nitrates as the dose of creatine/betaine is too low in either.
 
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Consider me educated :) Mr. Coop is the man.
 

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Tropinol XP contains a good amount of Nitrates.
and what exactly is "a good amount" of nitrates?
Will help with giving you an awesome pump and the overall formula is an awesome recomp agent.
and I thought you guys marketed this as a test booster, not a pump product?
any documentation out there of potential risk in potassium nitrate combo? thought I had seen couple things..

They're not different at all. Both are nitrate salts, and both enhance performance via nitrates as the dose of creatine/betaine is too low in either.
nitrate is nitrate, you can attach the salt to anything
as you are so wont to run around pointing out tho coop - the issue is how much nitrate salt you are consuming..
however, there are some worries about combining nitrate with certain things..can cause deleterious effects

I really feel we hit the nail on the head with the betaine combo
 

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I was wondering of there are any new promising supplement ingredients out there..E.g. nitrates
it is an intering age in science, to be sure
Finaflex has couple more new products coming out before end of year (and just may or may not have new ingredient for you, I cannot say currently)..keep your eyes peeled :)
 

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and what exactly is "a good amount" of nitrates?and I thought you guys marketed this as a test booster, not a pump product?
any documentation out there of potential risk in potassium nitrate combo? thought I had seen couple things..

nitrate is nitrate, you can attach the salt to anything
as you are so wont to run around pointing out tho coop - the issue is how much nitrate salt you are consuming..
however, there are some worries about combining nitrate with certain things..can cause deleterious effects

I really feel we hit the nail on the head with the betaine combo
Exactly. This depends on the molar weight of what the nitrate is bonded to. For example: 1 Gram of Creatine Nitrate will yield ~320mg of nitrates whereas 1 Gram of Betaine Nitrate will yield ~345 mg of nitrates. You definitely want to avoid PDE5 inhibitors both pharmaceutical (Viagra, Cialis, etc.) and herbal (Horny Goat Weed, Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa, Cnidium Monnieri, rutaecarpine, etc).
 
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Exactly. This depends on the molar weight of what the nitrate is bonded to. For example: 1 Gram of Creatine Nitrate will yield ~320mg of nitrates whereas 1 Gram of Betaine Nitrate will yield ~345 mg of nitrates. You definitely want to avoid PDE5 inhibitors both pharmaceutical (Viagra, Cialis, etc.) and herbal (Horny Goat Weed, Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa, Cnidium Monnieri, rutaecarpine, etc).
Thats no fun!
 
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And from my understanding creatine nitrate is just a more soluable form. Two toatly different products.

solubility of creatine doesnt matter for performance purposes once at saturation
 
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solubility of creatine doesnt matter for performance purposes once at saturation
Didn't say it did. Was just stating what a study showed. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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solubility of creatine doesnt matter for performance purposes once at saturation
So I have APS CN, 1 serving which is 3 g of CN would yield ~960 mg nitrates? Is that really that sufficient for a noticeable performance boost?
 

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So I have APS CN, 1 serving which is 3 g of CN would yield ~960 mg nitrates? Is that really that sufficient for a noticeable performance boost?

That would be the max dose. Threshold is approximately 1 gram total of Nitrates. Be careful as more is not better. Too much nitrates = too much vasodilation = too low of blood pressure.
 

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So I have APS CN, 1 serving which is 3 g of CN would yield ~960 mg nitrates? Is that really that sufficient for a noticeable performance boost?
APS does not have 3g per serving. More like 1-1.5g
 
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and what exactly is "a good amount" of nitrates?and I thought you guys marketed this as a test booster, not a pump product?
any documentation out there of potential risk in potassium nitrate combo? thought I had seen couple things..

nitrate is nitrate, you can attach the salt to anything
as you are so wont to run around pointing out tho coop - the issue is how much nitrate salt you are consuming..
however, there are some worries about combining nitrate with certain things..can cause deleterious effects

I really feel we hit the nail on the head with the betaine combo
Betaine nitrate?! Interesting....
 
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:O where you been?! Its Max Pump that has Betaine Nitrate :D
Damn! I think they offered me a log of that lol! Shoulda, woulda, coulda ;)

I've been buried in books lol! Where you been?
 

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Any samples of this Betaine Nitrate to try? Currently I'm using CN
 

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Betaine nitrate?! Interesting....
no doubt man

:O where you been?! Its Max Pump that has Betaine Nitrate :D
you really enjoyed this stuff, as did about everyone

Damn! I think they offered me a log of that lol! Shoulda, woulda, coulda ;)
nope nice try tho - we offered that guy valdez a chance and he shot us down..
I have no clue who you are, never heard of ya
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and i'll still keep the offer on the table for ya bro if you'll log it, lemme know

Any samples of this Betaine Nitrate to try? Currently I'm using CN
run a log, i'll shoot you a bottle too
 
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no doubt man

you really enjoyed this stuff, as did about everyone

nope nice try tho - we offered that guy valdez a chance and he shot us down..
I have no clue who you are, never heard of ya
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and i'll still keep the offer on the table for ya bro if you'll log it, lemme know

run a log, i'll shoot you a bottle too
Haha Snags my brotha from anotha! I had to change my name for background check **** lol! The offer still stands eh? I didn't turn you down I would never turn YOU down Mr ;)
 
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Do you all take Max pump solo or with other PWO supps? Just got out from under my rock, first I've heard of this.
 

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Do you all take Max pump solo or with other PWO supps? Just got out from under my rock, first I've heard of this.
I've taken my Creatine Nitrate with Hemavol... no adverse affects.. A little caffeine helps any potential BP issues...
 

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Do you all take Max pump solo or with other PWO supps? Just got out from under my rock, first I've heard of this.
could be solo if you wish, is fine as stand-alone, incredible compound..
but - if you want to supercharge your preWO, make it a stack!
rave reviews on the Ignite2/MaxPump 1-2 punch, great price as well
now get out from under that rock :)
 
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could be solo if you wish, is fine as stand-alone, incredible compound..
but - if you want to supercharge your preWO, make it a stack!
rave reviews on the Ignite2/MaxPump 1-2 punch, great price as well
now get out from under that rock :)
LMAO, thanks bud.
 

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Use nitrates properly.. More is not always better
 
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Plantago is a new supplement ingredient, it's in our New and Improved version of Titanium. Here is an interesting study to check out, it was added to increase endurance/performance in the gym, we should have some logs starting up soon on the forum.

http://www.academicjournals.org/jmpr...d%20Li-guo.pdf
 
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Damn! I think they offered me a log of that lol! Shoulda, woulda, coulda ;)

I've been buried in books lol! Where you been?
Woah crazy, I only just picked up that you chnaged your name lol. Just saw the Avi lol.

I'm always here, never went anywhere :D
 
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Woah crazy, I only just picked up that you chnaged your name lol. Just saw the Avi lol.

I'm always here, never went anywhere :D
Hahaha!!! Yea Valdez was too identifying I'm putting in a packet with the military PA program I don't want any non sense with a Google search etc... I googled Valdez it had all my associated logs and images etc

More than anything else paranoia but it's a huge deal if I can get in so whatever
 
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Hahaha!!! Yea Valdez was too identifying I'm putting in a packet with the military PA program I don't want any non sense with a Google search etc... I googled Valdez it had all my associated logs and images etc

More than anything else paranoia but it's a huge deal if I can get in so whatever
I didn't even know you could change your username lol. But thats good thinking, good luck with the prgram.

You still with that S&C coach?
 

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