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    Hey all, so my stats: 175, 11-12% bf. Looking to add ~10-15lbs LBM over the next 6 months before my wedding. Would like to also drop 2-3% bf in the same time period. For personal reasons, I have decided to forego using any PH/DS from now on, so I am looking at running one of these stacks along with my regular supps (protein, creatine, arginine&citrulline, multivit, fish oil) and Intimidate for 8 weeks. Training and diet are good to go.

    My main question is: is the ABE/EP stack really worth an extra $100 for an 8 week cycle? That is a pretty freaking expensive stack for not being PH/DS. Would the OG anabeta and OG erase be effective enough for my goals? Its just hard to justify an extra $100. Appreciate the input!

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    First off I will say those are some lofty goals for 6 months and you maybe hard pressed to hit that. I'd lower your goals to something like 2-3%bf drop and maintaining current weight. That said, I think the extra money spent is up to you depending on if convinence is a factor I personally prefer the OG on Erase because 75mg is too much for me and always screws up my libido.
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    Id say run abe and og erase. That way you'll get the extra recomping agents in abe and save a little money with og erase instead of erase pro. Also, id replace arginine with agmatine in your staples. Agmatine has been shown to be much more beneficial with vascularity, pumps, nutrient partitioning, etc.
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    They are definitely better products. It is down to someone's personal finances.
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    Awesome, appreciate the quick responses. I think I will go with ABE and OG Erase, that is only a $50 difference so I think I could swing that. I'm fine with adjusting my goals, I'd probably be happy with maintaing current weight and dropping 2-3% bf if you guys think that is a lot more reasonable! Probably make it easier on my wardrobe too haha. I will also look at replacing the arginine with agmatine. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Awesome, appreciate the quick responses. I think I will go with ABE and OG Erase, that is only a $50 difference so I think I could swing that. I'm fine with adjusting my goals, I'd probably be happy with maintaing current weight and dropping 2-3% bf if you guys think that is a lot more reasonable! Probably make it easier on my wardrobe too haha. I will also look at replacing the arginine with agmatine. Thanks!
    Good idea man, I think that's very reasonable and anything beyond that is a big plus, just remember keep an eye on calories and from what I've read on ABE you may need to up them a bit to maintain weight, but you should see good results from this.
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    ABE + OG Erase will help you drop body fat for sure with a well planned out diet. You will also see some other nice gains with that combo. I've ran both plenty of times and each time I fall more in love with them. If you're going to drop any cash on supplements, PES products are well worth it.
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    OG Erase and ABE is a great idea. I love OF Erase and I love the added ingredients in ABE will help with any recomp. Some people like EP for the fact it's easy one pill but I like playing with my dosing on Erase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Awesome, appreciate the quick responses. I think I will go with ABE and OG Erase, that is only a $50 difference so I think I could swing that. I'm fine with adjusting my goals, I'd probably be happy with maintaing current weight and dropping 2-3% bf if you guys think that is a lot more reasonable! Probably make it easier on my wardrobe too haha. I will also look at replacing the arginine with agmatine. Thanks!
    The Elite and Pro are definitely worth the money, but if I had to suggest one to take as the original, I would pick Erase so that you can find what dose works best for you. If you are planning to do 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off, and then back on for another 8 weeks, you can always bump it up to Erase Pro at the end
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    Just spend the money, your getting married it is worth a few extra bucks to look and feel like a T-Rex!
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    I'm on Anabeta Elite and OG Erase...coming to the end of my first week and the stack rocks! Can easily be compared to a pulse prohormone cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    I'm on Anabeta Elite and OG Erase...coming to the end of my first week and the stack rocks! Can easily be compared to a pulse prohormone cycle.
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    Id go with abe and erase pro, nutraplanet has a sick sale on the two of em right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Id go with abe and erase pro, nutraplanet has a sick sale on the two of em right now!
    Unfortunately they have stopped that sale...I was VERY tempted to pull the trigger and make the order (just tried ABE and dammit I NEED MORE haha), and then checked back today and it is sadly gone. I guess it was just a 48-hour sale.
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    I can't say much for erase as I have never tried it, but holy crap ABE is awesome! I have never in my life tried anything that made even close to the same difference in strength, recovery, and overall positive feeling. I can't recommend it enough, and I do feel that it is worth the extra 20 bucks over the original. I have logged both OG and Elite versions on here. The Elite left me bigger, stronger, and leaner than the original, and both are great products. It seems like the general consensus here is that you can save money by using ABE with OG erase. Watch Nutraplanet closely, though. They JUST a sale: ABE and EPro for something like 68 bucks! The sale is off now, but maybe they will put it back on in the next few weeks. If they run that sale again, and 8-week cycle would only be 16 dollars more than the OG products, and would end up being about 25 dollars CHEAPER than buying 2 bottles of ABE and OG erase. Keep an eye out, bro. Congrats as well on the wedding; good luck with the prep and everything!

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    Hey guys thanks for all the awesome replies! I am still kicking the idea around of running ABE + Erase Pro, seeing as I don't actually have to buy all 8 weeks worth at the same time haha. And you're right, I'm getting married and that's only going to happen once so I might as well spend the $$ to look my best! I am kicking myself for not taking advantage of that sale...but it wouldn't have been a wise decision until I get paid next week. I will definitely let you guys know what I decide to do and will log it if there is enough interest.
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    original Anabeta and Erase Pro. you cant go wrong with either, as erase and erase pro are both solid products. i prefer anabeta over anabeta elite any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    original Anabeta and Erase Pro. you cant go wrong with either, as erase and erase pro are both solid products. i prefer anabeta over anabeta elite any day.
    Why is that??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Why is that??

    everybody experiences supplements differently. For me, I didnt see the increased pumps, increased appetite like i do with OG anabeta but a lot of other people do experience those positive effects from ABE so you just gotta try it for yourself.
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    AnaBeta Elite for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    AnaBeta Elite for me.
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    Hmmm...maybe I should do a 4 week solo run of each to determine which one i like better. 6 months is plenty of time to do that and then run an 8 weeker stacked with EP with whichever one is more effective for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Hmmm...maybe I should do a 4 week solo run of each to determine which one i like better. 6 months is plenty of time to do that and then run an 8 weeker stacked with EP with whichever one is more effective for me
    Yep. Run 4 weeks of each then take a nice little break from all supplements like these then hit it hard with an 8 week stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Hmmm...maybe I should do a 4 week solo run of each to determine which one i like better. 6 months is plenty of time to do that and then run an 8 weeker stacked with EP with whichever one is more effective for me
    Great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Hmmm...maybe I should do a 4 week solo run of each to determine which one i like better. 6 months is plenty of time to do that and then run an 8 weeker stacked with EP with whichever one is more effective for me
    Hell yeah, dude, if you are up for it, this would be the only way to know for sure. I think it would be worth it. Run Anabeta first, then take a break and run ABE. After that, you could run Erase or Epro solo or just stack one on top of whichever AB incarnation you liked the best. I did AB runs at all different lengths and dosages before trying ABE. I am glad I did, as it made me appreciate the added ingredients in ABE more (although now it will be hard to go back to old school Anabeta). Good luck! Also, just from personal experience (including using AB to try to get jacked before my wedding, so we have some stuff in common ), I feel like I take my diet more seriously if I am logging something on here. Knowing I am accountable and will be posting some before/after pics is usually enough to keep me in bed when I want to be in the kitchen. Just an idea, as nothing is going to do what you want these to do if your diet isn't properly tuned up (well, for me at least).

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    Would there be any use of running of erase one pill a day for 8 weeks? Or is that too small .
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    Quote Originally Posted by hw101 View Post
    Would there be any use of running of erase one pill a day for 8 weeks? Or is that too small .
    This is what I'm doing at the moment. For some reason, anything more dries me out too much, including my skin and lips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post

    This is what I'm doing at the moment. For some reason, anything more dries me out too much, including my skin and lips.
    How's the results look with 1 a day? Had same issue even with more fish oil and increased water intake
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    Quote Originally Posted by hw101 View Post
    How's the results look with 1 a day? Had same issue even with more fish oil and increased water intake
    1 a day is working well....sometimes even that is too much so I take on every other day. Stacking it with AB Elite is working well. Just means the bottle lasts longer :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    This is what I'm doing at the moment. For some reason, anything more dries me out too much, including my skin and lips.
    I must be one of the lucky ones. I am running Erase Pro (13days in) first time trying either Erase product. No joint issues, no dry lips or skin. Libido is good. I assume I would have noticed any issues by now
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post

    1 a day is working well....sometimes even that is too much so I take on every other day. Stacking it with AB Elite is working well. Just means the bottle lasts longer :-)
    Nice will give it ago . Haven't ran ab yet can't wait to
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I must be one of the lucky ones. I am running Erase Pro (13days in) first time trying either Erase product. No joint issues, no dry lips or skin. Libido is good. I assume I would have noticed any issues by now
    Definitely. What positive effects have you noticed so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Definitely. What positive effects have you noticed so far?
    Lol. Well I have been getting ready for a vacation so I have been running a massive stack. Some new products, and some favorites. Here is quick breakdown on what I believe I have seen.

    -Erase Pro 2 weeks in: Veins are more prominent which is a plus at my weight. Face has leaned out some

    -Anabeta Elite 5 Weeks Finished : Strength is way up, broke 2 PR's while cutting, including 80lb alternating curls. Muscle are fuller/denser, some days my 2300 calorie goal was smashed as I pigged out, still lost some fat. Slight increase in test I feel(bro science small pimples and increased libido)

    -Versa-1 8th Week: Gives me a solid mind/muscle connection. Even on the 80lb alternating curls I was doing really really slow negatives. Has helped with the strength increase.

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    -New AT2 almost 1 week: Dosing 1 cap with my Alphamine scoops. Enhances the warmth, enhances how easily I break into a sweat

    I started back at gym early March after a car accident had sidelined me. My heaviest was 321lbs, I am currently 298. I would have liked to drop even more fat in the last 3 months, but I realize it takes time lol. Also my dieting always sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Lol. Well I have been getting ready for a vacation so I have been running a massive stack. Some new products, and some favorites. Here is quick breakdown on what I believe I have seen.

    -Erase Pro 2 weeks in: Veins are more prominent which is a plus at my weight. Face has leaned out some

    -Anabeta Elite 5 Weeks Finished : Strength is way up, broke 2 PR's while cutting, including 80lb alternating curls. Muscle are fuller/denser, some days my 2300 calorie goal was smashed as I pigged out, still lost some fat. Slight increase in test I feel(bro science small pimples and increased libido)

    -Versa-1 8th Week: Gives me a solid mind/muscle connection. Even on the 80lb alternating curls I was doing really really slow negatives. Has helped with the strength increase.

    -OG Anabeta 1 week in: Same as above. Strength, Libido, Muscle fullness

    -Alphamine 2 or 3 weeks in: Makes me very very happy, helps counter the hunger from Anabeta, makes me sweat from barely moving

    -New AT2 almost 1 week: Dosing 1 cap with my Alphamine scoops. Enhances the warmth, enhances how easily I break into a sweat

    I started back at gym early March after a car accident had sidelined me. My heaviest was 321lbs, I am currently 298. I would have liked to drop even more fat in the last 3 months, but I realize it takes time lol. Also my dieting always sucks
    It's funny should it mention it but...I've noticed the leaner face! I was looking at my face thinking its looking leaner than usual, but couldn't understand why because I have been leaner in the past. You've explained the mystery.

    On a separate note, not really wanting to hijack the thread, but thinking its probably better to raise it here than a separate thread. I'm currently on Recompadrol, Anabeta Elite, Erase and OEP Powder because of the alpha-y (Alphamine has finished). My bottle of erase will finish in the next few days, so my options are:

    Buy another bottle of erase
    Buy a tub of alphamine and take it with the OEP powder (1 scopp each twice a day)
    Buy C20

    I'm currently recomping, but more toward fat loss than muscle accrual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Hmmm...maybe I should do a 4 week solo run of each to determine which one i like better. 6 months is plenty of time to do that and then run an 8 weeker stacked with EP with whichever one is more effective for me
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    4 Anabeta Elite + 2 OG Anabeta per day. Try 6 total a day. As amazing as regular ABE dosing is in terms of gains... adding an extra 2 OG AB REALLY puts it over the top.

    Think about it man. You're getting married, you want to be in the best shape of your life. You know how many people over the years your wife will be showing the wedding photos to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Ready to have Mind = Blown?

    Erase Pro + Anabeta Elite + OG Anabeta

    Both ABE AND OG AB? YES SIR!

    4 Anabeta Elite + 2 OG Anabeta per day. Try 6 total a day. As amazing as regular ABE dosing is in terms of gains... adding an extra 2 OG AB REALLY puts it over the top.

    Think about it man. You're getting married, you want to be in the best shape of your life. You know how many people over the years your wife will be showing the wedding photos to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Ready to have Mind = Blown?

    Erase Pro + Anabeta Elite + OG Anabeta

    Both ABE AND OG AB? YES SIR!

    4 Anabeta Elite + 2 OG Anabeta per day. Try 6 total a day. As amazing as regular ABE dosing is in terms of gains... adding an extra 2 OG AB REALLY puts it over the top.

    Think about it man. You're getting married, you want to be in the best shape of your life. You know how many people over the years your wife will be showing the wedding photos to?
    That would be a dream stack! Sounds kinda pricey! I've always wanted to run a higher dose of ABE/AB for an 8 week lean bulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Hey all, so my stats: 175, 11-12% bf. Looking to add ~10-15lbs LBM over the next 6 months before my wedding. Would like to also drop 2-3% bf in the same time period. For personal reasons, I have decided to forego using any PH/DS from now on, so I am looking at running one of these stacks along with my regular supps (protein, creatine, arginine&citrulline, multivit, fish oil) and Intimidate for 8 weeks. Training and diet are good to go.

    My main question is: is the ABE/EP stack really worth an extra $100 for an 8 week cycle? That is a pretty freaking expensive stack for not being PH/DS. Would the OG anabeta and OG erase be effective enough for my goals? Its just hard to justify an extra $100. Appreciate the input!
    I compare it to buying a Benz with or without the upgraded interior / sunroof / exclusive package.

    Stacking Erase / Anabeta is the Mercedes of the supplement market. Next questions is, do you want to spend the extra few bucks for nav system, backup camera, sunroof etc (Erase PRO / Anabeta ELITE)

    Either way it's a WIN. But how much do you want to win by?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    ^ solid logic
    Or even better.... 8 AB a day !
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    Making my purchase next week...Going all out with the ABE and EP! Should get great results...started a new kickass training program that is...kicking my ass. lol So this will be a fantastic addition to that. Super stoked!
  

  
 

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