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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Well all the PES reps are saying Alphamine is the best, and all the iforce repps are saying Dexaprine is the best.Non bias opinions here.. LOL
    i can give u an unbiased review....when it comes to dexaprine og vs alphamine

    i'd pick dexaprine right now...i didn't get a ton of energy from it but it was cleaner feeling

    alphamine has me feeling like trash after i take it, it dosn't taste too good, the energy isn't anything great and it's more jittery and feels very unclean to me at this time

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    Not a rep, just a consumer. Listen to people who have tried all the fatburners mentioned/being recommended here. I've tried them all, for extended periods of time. Dexaprine 1, V2 etc. both are very good products, especially in terms of offering energy. Also used OEP, again good in terms of energy. Alphamine in my opinion, based on my results with no other variable thrown into the mix produced the fastest, most measurable results in just a matter of weeks, WEEKS.

    The other fatburners have their place, but if you're looking for something that separates itself from the rest of the pack based on fast, measurable results in less time...ALPHAMINE ALL DAY. Alpha-T2 coupled with a stim also works incredibly well. Remember not a rep and I've tried most of the products being discussed her, take that for what it's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    i can give u an unbiased review....when it comes to dexaprine og vs alphamine

    i'd pick dexaprine right now...i didn't get a ton of energy from it but it was cleaner feeling

    alphamine has me feeling like trash after i take it, it dosn't taste too good, the energy isn't anything great and it's more jittery and feels very unclean to me at this time

    both are solid companies and both make really good products
    I think this is a common misconception among fat burner consumers over recent years....

    Fat burners are not energy boosters. Energy does not necessarily correlate into fat loss. I never understood why people use fat burners for a boost.

    Energy results from a stim are user dependent.

    To look at the ingredient profile of Alphamine and say it's not a good fat burner is just plain wrong, based on factual studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    I think this is a common misconception among fat burner consumers over recent years....

    Fat burners are not energy boosters. Energy does not necessarily correlate into fat loss. I never understood why people use fat burners for a boost.

    Energy results from a stim are user dependent.

    To look at the ingredient profile of Alphamine and say it's not a good fat burner is just plain wrong, based on factual studies.
    ^^^What he said. You have some products that are strong stims, then you have others that are formulated to be effective as fatburners. Alphamine isn't a strong stim for me either, but it flat out works better than anything else that I've tried in this category. I love Detonate as a stim, but I stack it with Alpha-T2 (new version at the moment). Athletic Edge Nutrition LIV, that's there newest fatburner, just came out. Google it, looks interesting especially the stim aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    I think this is a common misconception among fat burner consumers over recent years....

    Fat burners are not energy boosters. Energy does not necessarily correlate into fat loss. I never understood why people use fat burners for a boost.

    Energy results from a stim are user dependent.

    To look at the ingredient profile of Alphamine and say it's not a good fat burner is just plain wrong, based on factual studies.

    Energy or not.....alphamine still gives me the shakes and crappy feeling after i dose it..it's to early for results, but even if energy is a bad measuring stick...something that makes you feel terible isn't a good sign either
    , for example after dosing, my brain seems to not work as sharp, i feel foggy and uneasy/ shakey

    if after a few weeks results in the mirror are good i may change how i view the product, but i can only base it off of what i've experienced so far
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    You have to look at the big picture. Regardless of what product you choose, how lean is your diet?

    I have been logging Fat Smack, decent product but not happy with my results. (Notice I did not say its results) I eat clean, do cardio and weights pretty regularly but after further evaluation I was still taking in more food than I was burning....Do you realize you need to be in a calorie deficit of 3500 to lose 1 lb?

    I nerded out and bought a Fitbit Flex, tracks calories burned and also lets me log my food intake, tracks sleep etc. Since I have bought this
    I am more conscious of my food and it allows me to truly track intake/out take.

    I am by no means saying go buy a tracker but more of, you think you are eating clean but is it too much/too little?
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    YG sorry you have had a bad reaction to it so far. Mood boost is one thing I really like with Alphamine. How have you been dosing it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    YG sorry you have had a bad reaction to it so far. Mood boost is one thing I really like with Alphamine. How have you been dosing it?
    1 scoop pre breakfast and 1 scoop pre workout 5:30ish....it's only been 5 days, so again i'm sure the results will still be there (too many positive reviews to doubt it's effectiveness), i'm only commenting on how it makes me feel so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    1 scoop pre breakfast and 1 scoop pre workout 5:30ish....it's only been 5 days, so again i'm sure the results will still be there (too many positive reviews to doubt it's effectiveness), i'm only commenting on how it makes me feel so far
    Do you get the same feeling with both doses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Do you get the same feeling with both doses?
    mostly in the morning...but sometimes between sets at the gym i feel a bit strange and shaky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    mostly in the morning...but sometimes between sets at the gym i feel a bit strange and shaky
    Ok I was just wondering if taking it fasted (in the morning) caused a stronger response. Maybe try a little bit less than 1 scoop for a bit and see if that helps.
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    I'm not rep PES just consumer. I took some fat burner but now alphamine is the best . I train very hard 6/7days MMA and gym, the day 7 is my break I'm always extremely tired; with alphamine nothing the day 7 I'm normal. For precision I don't take it or other stims the day 7. I'm in my 4 weeks I really impressed by it I take 1 scoop 5am and 1 scoop 11am. Usualy I use Oxyelite pro OG I'm definitively done with it sorry rep USP but now I don't need strong stims for good results and performance .
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    I rocked OEP for a long time but since its getting hit with the ban hammer not sure where I would go honestly I found that fat burners don't really work its all in your diet BUT right now using driven sports lean extreme and its been good so far no energy and I am waiting to give a final thumbs up till I finish the bottle and compare my results to older logs but its got good science backing it so giving it a go maybe its something you could try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem99 View Post
    I rocked OEP for a long time but since its getting hit with the ban hammer not sure where I would go honestly I found that fat burners don't really work its all in your diet BUT right now using driven sports lean extreme and its been good so far no energy and I am waiting to give a final thumbs up till I finish the bottle and compare my results to older logs but its got good science backing it so giving it a go maybe its something you could try.
    Have you tried the new OxyELITE ProŽ NF or OxyELITE ProŽ Powder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Whatever works for you best. Everybody is different. For a stim, I like alphamine. Non stim I prefer forskolin for 12 weeks at 50mg
    Alphamine + Forskolin-95 stack!

    Doesnt get more thryo/thermo genic than that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Have you tried the new OxyELITE ProŽ NF or OxyELITE ProŽ Powder?

    Many users report the same great energy, appetite suppression and fat loss as with the original.
    I have not. I have looked at it and the powder seems like it would be great but I really think I am going to go with the OEP NF and review that with Lean Extreme as my Fat burning stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Alphamine + Forskolin-95 stack!

    Doesnt get more thryo/thermo genic than that
    quick somebody throw some distilled water on dat nattydisaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    I'm not rep PES just consumer. I took some fat burner but now alphamine is the best . I train very hard 6/7days MMA and gym, the day 7 is my break I'm always extremely tired; with alphamine nothing the day 7 I'm normal. For precision I don't take it or other stims the day 7. I'm in my 4 weeks I really impressed by it I take 1 scoop 5am and 1 scoop 11am. Usualy I use Oxyelite pro OG I'm definitively done with it sorry rep USP but now I don't need strong stims for good results and performance .
    Whatever you're doing its working....shredded in your avatar pic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post

    Whatever you're doing its working....shredded in your avatar pic!
    Yeah freaking diced, making me do extra cardio over here!!
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    Thanks, my avatar pic was after the incredible stack anabeta elite and erase pro I gained 12lbs 6 weeks ABE and 8 weeks EPRO . I started this stack late March-April but I don't regret because it has been very effective just erase pro very strong after 2 weeks my joints especially my knees was very painful I adjusted the dosage 1day/2 it was good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    Thanks, my avatar pic was after the incredible stack anabeta elite and erase pro I gained 12lbs 6 weeks ABE and 8 weeks EPRO . I started this stack late March-April but I don't regret because it has been very effective just erase pro very strong after 2 weeks my joints especially my knees was very painful I adjusted the dosage 1day/2 it was good.
    12 pounds....?
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    yes 12 pounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    yes 12 pounds
    12 pounds??
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    Why ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    Why ????
    I just created an Echo. .12 pounds..12 pounds..12 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    Why ????
    Just seems like a lot of weight added from a natty stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Just seems like a lot of weight added from a natty stack.
    My friend Jay Reimenschneider gains about 12 with nattys along with Sannakji twice to thrice daily for a period of 6 weeks divided twice in 52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post

    My friend Jay Reimenschneider gains about 12 with nattys along with Sannakji twice to thrice daily for a period of 6 weeks divided twice in 52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
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    I get the same feelings young gotta describes, usually it's worse in the morning and on my drive to work I usually feel very spaced and slow to react to things. Can't comment on its fat burning but the weird feeling will have me trying something else soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post
    Hahaha

    That's my before Alphamine pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Just seems like a lot of weight added from a natty stack.
    I"m not here to do jokes or tell lies I paid my supplements not sponsorised by nobody or I don't want to create a buzz. You don't know my diet, training or my history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    I"m not here to do jokes or tell lies I paid my supplements not sponsorised by nobody or I don't want to create a buzz. You don't know my diet, training or my history.
    Every one is unique we are not egal with supplementations !!!!!! ( come to train with me and you will comprise )
    A little touchy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    A little touchy
    He's right though...weight gain is a function of so many factors and ultimately boils down to net anabolism vs net catabolism
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    im not saying you are wrong, just saying that isnt the norm
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    im not saying you are wrong, just saying that isnt the norm
    What's the norm and why ? 12 pounds it's 5.5 kg in 6-8 weeks for me . And why take a supplement if you don't progress. Anabeta elite suppose to increase lean muscle, strenght, vascularity etc so why do you doubt that. I didn't know Anacyclus pyrethrum DC Extract now I believe in the effect .
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    What's the norm and why ? 12 pounds it's 5.5 kg in 6-8 weeks for me . And why take a supplement if you don't progress. Anabeta elite suppose to increase lean muscle, strenght, vascularity etc so why do you doubt that. I didn't know Anacyclus pyrethrum DC Extract now I believe in the effect .
    dang man, chill out. just talking here. not calling you out or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    dang man, chill out. just talking here. not calling you out or anything.
    You are here since DEC 2009 you don't know the effect of ANABETA ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    You are here since DEC 2009 you don't know the effect of ANABETA ?
    Quote Originally Posted by XIXOX View Post
    What's the norm and why ? 12 pounds it's 5.5 kg in 6-8 weeks for me . And why take a supplement if you don't progress. Anabeta elite suppose to increase lean muscle, strenght, vascularity etc so why do you doubt that. I didn't know Anacyclus pyrethrum DC Extract now I believe in the effect .
    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    dang man, chill out. just talking here. not calling you out or anything.
    lol Balla I know what your sayin jus sayin it's hilarious
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