Best supplement for Muscle Recovery? Training for Marathon

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Plain and simple...

    What are the better ones out there? Any all in one? I take Joint Support, Beta Alamine, Fish Oil and Cissus, but none of them are really for muscle soreness.

    I've been training for a marathon (I tore my bicep so I can't quite work out my upper body, so figured I would train for something) and running 3 - 4 times a week takes a lot out of my legs.

    I do a lot of foam rolling, spend plenty of time at the hot tub, have massage pads on my legs almost 24/7, and take muscle relaxants, but still, always always sore...

    Any help is appreciated because as of now I would only be able to go running maybe twice a week due to shin splints, knee soreness, etc.

    I run with good running shoes on a impact lowering treadmill, sometimes will use vibram 5toes instead. Should I invest in shoe soles from Dr. Scholes or something to help out? I am pretty flat footed.
    I know wendler likes to soak in bath salts for soreness, dont know if that will help, but wendler is usaully straight forward with these type of things.

    also stop using the treadmill, if your training for a marathon not a good idea. Thats like traing to sqaut for a powerlifting meet with a hack sqaut machine. When your running for distances soreness comes with the territory, the idea is to keep working through it. I know when I started running in the begining it was tough for me to.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post

    I know wendler likes to soak in bath salts for soreness, dont know if that will help, but wendler is usaully straight forward with these type of things.

    also stop using the treadmill, if your training for a marathon not a good idea. Thats like traing to sqaut for a powerlifting meet with a hack sqaut machine. When your running for distances soreness comes with the territory, the idea is to keep working through it. I know when I started running in the begining it was tough for me to.
    Epsons salts and yes it helps tremendously
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    I know wendler likes to soak in bath salts for soreness, dont know if that will help, but wendler is usaully straight forward with these type of things.

    also stop using the treadmill, if your training for a marathon not a good idea. Thats like traing to sqaut for a powerlifting meet with a hack sqaut machine. When your running for distances soreness comes with the territory, the idea is to keep working through it. I know when I started running in the begining it was tough for me to.
    Living in Michigan it's kinda hard to train outside... Was snowing last week. Waiting for good weather to go outside.
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  4. I noticed you complain about being flat footed and having shin splints. I suffer from the same condition. The way you land because you are flat footed will translate into all kinds of other symptoms from shin splints, to knee pain, to hip pain, to back pain, to neck pain. Btw creatine has no effect on endurance athletes. It's really not gonna improve your marathon time or aid in recovery. If you don't believe me check it out, there are tons of research articles that back it up. Now as for shin splints I have suffered for years with that particular ailment. Two things have made a dramatic change in my training when I do train for running. First is rice therapy: fill up a large saucer with dry rice and kneed your toes in it for a few minutes a few times a day. Lets say 5 minutes am and again in the PM. You can do this while watching tv so it doesn't become a chore. Up it to two ten minute sessions over time. Second is calf sleeves. This has helped more than you can believe! A good pair are about 40-50$. You want them to be snug but not constricting. GO BUY SOME CALF SLEEVES!!!

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  5. Interesting, will look into them.

    I wear those braces and whatnot, but not these sleeves. Will give it a try
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  6. You're going to love Compete - the taste is insane, and it'll help you on your longer training days. It's one of my favorites and definitely something that I use daily at this point. Good luck with your training!
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post

    Compete is creatine free, and will offer you the most noticeable improvements in performance out of anything you can try.
    Just checked out compete. Good stuff. I like how it is creatine free as well. Should really help out the OP.

    Adding BCAAs would increase recovery as well. Just don't buy into the SAA bullshyt.
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  8. Hey OP, check this out as well. Really helps with flat feet!

    http://www.yoursole.com/us/help/footbed-fitting/

    They're great for activity. Another insole I buy are these, mainly just for comfort for standing or walking>>>

    http://www.magnumboots.com/uk/orthol...m-insoles.html
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  9. excited to see what the OP thinks!

    OP - Try doing 1 scoop/20-24oz water. It is very strongly flavored
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  10. I'm going to have to look into investing in some soles I believe...

    I do have a heating pad / massager at work that I keep at my calves the entire day to ease with the split and calve pain and all.

    Are Dr. Scholls any good? Also just purchased a new pair of running shoes; I use the vibrams at the gym with the low impact treadmill which seem to have helped a lot with my shin splint issue, but they can't be used outdoors, too much impact on my body.

    Also doesn't help that my legs have to propel a 235lb body around, I'm sure they don't quite enjoy it.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I do have a heating pad / massager at work that I keep at my calves the entire day to ease with the split and calve pain and all

    Are Dr. Scholls any good? Also just purchased a new pair of running shoes
    Shin splints are actually micro fractures in the bone itself, some severe. This is accompanied by tears in connective tissue as well. The muscle has less to do with it than you think. An anti inflammatory is your best friend.

    Get the sleeves!

    Dr scholls is a joke. Get some quality stuff that actually works like those oven bake insoles.

    Lastly, there is a lot of research that goes into buying a shoe that will help you perform better. As flat footed individuals we are limited in our choices. I hope you did your homework
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  12. I got the Vibrams for inside and they work perfectly to avoid those type of injuries.

    For the outside I'm looking at soles exactly because I don't want to get the shoes; the latest one I looked at was a quick $300 and that is just not within the budget right now.

    Will start taking some anti inflamatories, wasn't aware of that, I thought it was a combination.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I got the Vibrams for inside and they work perfectly to avoid those type of injuries.

    For the outside I'm looking at soles exactly because I don't want to get the shoes; the latest one I looked at was a quick $300 and that is just not within the budget right now.

    Will start taking some anti inflamatories, wasn't aware of that, I thought it was a combination.
    I just got some vibrams last week. I love them so far! Takes a little getting used to tho
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I got the Vibrams for inside and they work perfectly to avoid those type of injuries.

    For the outside I'm looking at soles exactly because I don't want to get the shoes; the latest one I looked at was a quick $300 and that is just not within the budget right now.

    Will start taking some anti inflamatories, wasn't aware of that, I thought it was a combination.
    if you want a strong natural anti-inflammatory, look into Joint Help. It includes ParActin which is a very potent anti-inflammatory. As such, it offers both immediate and long term pain relief.
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  15. Recovery/Overall Performance, I'd go with Protocol.
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  16. Marathon training is one of the few times you don't want to facilitate the hormetic response to exercise. You want antioxidants and immunostimulants.

    Vitamin C, Echinacea, Anaycyclus pyrethrum, NAC, LCLT.

    Pre-marathon, a dietary protocol of glycogen depletion, followed by low/no carbs for 2-3 days, followed by carb-loading should create a strong glycogen supercompensation response. Since glycogen depletion is tied with failure in marathons, you want as much as possible going in.
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