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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    I'm not a chemist or product formulator, I'll defer to more capable minds in that area. However, here is what I know, not one ounce of evidence has been presented yet to suggest that the product does in fact contain this analogue. Yes I know...a youtube video, case closed I guess.

    Yes I enjoy the product, however, note that if something illicit is found in the product then I believe DS should be held accountable and I'd no longer use the product. Fair approach no? All I'm saying is this, where is the evidence to suggest that it contains the analogue discussed here apart from the factual treasure trove of information known as the mythical youtube? If there is evidence, cool, present it and Craze is out of here. I'm okay with that, even as someone who highly enjoys using the product. My point remains the same, this story has already been spun for months...where's the smoking gun?
    It is pretty much beyond the shadow of a doubt that craze has been banned from australia because all australia retailers and distributors are talking about it. the question is why was it banned? These people say they were told because it has an amphetamine analog. What does that mean? Suggestions are starting to arise that it is the compound I mentioned. NO there is no documentation but I am confident there will be something soon.

    so just be patient, this will play out in due time i am sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    You could try emailing the TGA, CUSTOMS AND/OR FEDERAL POLICE. Its been pulled from shops nation wide. I think thats proof enough? We'll see if anymore information comes from retailers.
    Lol. I'm not emailing anyone. I live in the US, there are different product formulations for other markets outside of the US, based on their restrictions. That is hardly proof of anything. You're asking me to look at a youtube video, then to email "whoever" in Australia. This product has been on the market for well over a year now in the US. I'll wait until valid documentation is presented to make a judgment, or see if Mel Gibson emails me back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    I My point remains the same, this story has already been spun for months...where's the smoking gun?

    In my perspective, it has just started to really play out. What transpired the last few months was piddly BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    In my perspective, it has just started to really play out. What transpired the last few months was piddly BS
    Fair enough, we shall see and if you're right you deserve credit for it. But if you're wrong and this is all for not, AGAIN, then I highly doubt you'll be criticized for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Fair enough, we shall see and if you're right you deserve credit for it. But if you're wrong and this is all for not, AGAIN, then I highly doubt you'll be criticized for it.

    i am trying not to make any definitive statements so if this is all wrong i cant be accused of lying or misrepresentation
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    On a side note, just got me thinking, this analogue was just recently discovered correct? According to google searches, I see mentions of the Australian ban going back as far as January,February. We're now into April and this is coming up now, almost two months later. Now people have claimed that the newer formula differs from the original, essentially it's weaker. So did the Aussies test the newer (supposedly weaker version), or the original version that some people are claiming is stronger? If DS did tweak the formula to remove anything questionable, then they (Aussies) must have either tested the old version or the counterfeits. I mean it would be pretty stupid of DS, with the level of scrutiny this product receives, to reformulate and still include the analogue. Doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    On a side note, just got me thinking, this analogue was just recently discovered correct? According to google searches, I see mentions of the Australian ban going back as far as January,February. We're now into April and this is coming up now, almost two months later. Now people have claimed that the newer formula differs from the original, essentially it's weaker. So did the Aussies test the newer (supposedly weaker version), or the original version that some people are claiming is stronger? If DS did tweak the formula to remove anything questionable, then they (Aussies) must have either tested the old version or the counterfeits. I mean it would be pretty stupid of DS, with the level of scrutiny this product receives, to reformulate and still include the analogue. Doesn't make sense.

    as you know i cant really discuss the testing i did. if i could though it would be helpful to the conversation

    stuff will play out. i know its bizarre
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    On a side note, just got me thinking, this analogue was just recently discovered correct? According to google searches, I see mentions of the Australian ban going back as far as January,February. We're now into April and this is coming up now, almost two months later. Now people have claimed that the newer formula differs from the original, essentially it's weaker. So did the Aussies test the newer (supposedly weaker version), or the original version that some people are claiming is stronger? If DS did tweak the formula to remove anything questionable, then they (Aussies) must have either tested the old version or the counterfeits. I mean it would be pretty stupid of DS, with the level of scrutiny this product receives, to reformulate and still include the analogue. Doesn't make sense.
    I was thinking the same thing. People claim the new batches are weaker, yet I assume the new ones were tested and it would be pretty stupid of DS to continue to spike(which I don't really know if they did because I feel no difference from the new or OG) Craze under that scrutiny.
  

  
 

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