Help with massive cut/recomp/fatburn stack?

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  1. Help with massive cut/recomp/fatburn stack?


    So I'm looking at including one supp from each of the following categories and let me know if i am missing any other supplement categories that could make the stack even better, there is no limits to this stack (just once I want to do a beast stack, yeah I know a mass gaining beast stack would be more fun, but I need the abs out dammit!) The aim of the stack is to make burning stubborn fat as easy as possible, and if I can make gains as well then sweet. help me pick the best stack! My diet will be 60% protein 20% carbs 20% fats (carbs really throw off my fat burning). And I will do a carb refeed day every 3 days. Training will be 16 hour fasted.

    PWO: Enhanced for sure
    Fatburner w/stim: Alphamine for sure

    Fatburner wo/stim: DCP, Decimate, Vanillean or others?
    Estrogen control: Triazole, Erase, or something else?
    Cortisol control: Lean xtreme, Anabolic xtreme, Phosphatidyl serine, 7-keto/DHEA, Vit C or something else?
    Test booster: Activate xtreme, DAA, Titanium XL, test powder or something else?
    Anabolic shiz: Versa-1, Anabeta or something else?
    GDA: Slin sane v2 or will it even help much?

    I know you guys know of a lot of other supps that could help so throw em out here.


  2. I've ran this before with amazing results: Alphamine + Erase/Erase Pro + Anabeta Elite. Test Powder would be a great addition from reviews and if not TP then SNS DAA would be great to add also. For non-stim I would look into adding DCP or TTA and/or Green Coffee Bean Extract. These two will go great with Alphamine. For a GDA, SSv2 is a nice choice or Recompadrol is another one I would look into.

    With all the above, you would have a very effective cutting stack but so much more then just that.

    Edit: with Erase/Erase Pro you get an estrogen and cortisol control.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post

    PWO: Enhanced
    Fatburner w/stim: Alphamine

    Fatburner wo/stim: DCP or Decimate
    Estrogen control: Triazole or Erase
    Cortisol control: Lean xtreme, Anabolic xtreme, Phosphatidyl serine, 7-keto/DHEA, Vit C or something else?
    Test booster: Activate xtreme, DAA, Titanium XL, test powder or something else?
    Anabolic shiz: Versa-1, Anabeta or something else?
    GDA: Slin sane v2 or will it even help much?

    I know you guys know of a lot of other supps that could help so throw em out here.
    First if you lay out your schedule (and duration of this, recomps are a more gradual thing) as it may make things a little easier but overall:

    That is a lot of categories and I wouldn't stack THAT many products, but luckily you can find products that overlap in multiple ways so that would save you some trouble.

    With the ones mentioned I am going to assume you have/or can find them and would personally go:

    -Alphamine, Enhanced, DCP, Erase, AnaBeta Elite (covers test boosting, additional recomp effects with Forskolin addition and controls cortisol as well), and Slin-Sanev2.

    Here is a link to my review (with dosing, etc) of a very similar stack with layout how I went about it for 12 weeks. It was also done with a IF approach. I don't prefer to use that many products at once but can't argue with how effective it was when I did: Recomp/Cut results fueled by PES/SNS/Genomyx
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  4. I just read through your review bolt. I tried looking for it a while ago but could never find it. I must say one word... Wow . Crazy gains and shredded. Vascularity is insane also.
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  5. thanks bolt your log is great, and its funny as you mention lyle mcdonalds stubborn fat protocol, which I had just finished reading and inspired me to start this cut, heh.

    Decided on- Enhanced, Alphamine, DCP, Erase Pro, Anabeta Elite, DAA, Slin Sane v2 and gonna use some phosphatidyl serine as well just in case :P should have cortisol well under control with at least 3 pathways blocking it hah, just gotta pray my joints hold up, then again it probably wont be as bad as epi >.<

    cheers guys
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  6. Nice stack you are going to have. Going to log it? I would follow for sure.
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  7. I have to say add Ana beta elite in there. I swear has to be the best stuff ever. At first I was like "****ING PES THIS STUFF BLOWS" and the. On the 7th day.... "PES I love you guys :]." Just body composition tweaks from the ABE is awesome . Add alphamine and erase to dry and lean out.

    Edit- just saw your final stack good stuff

  8. Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    I have to say add Ana beta elite in there. I swear has to be the best stuff ever. At first I was like "****ING PES THIS STUFF BLOWS" and the. On the 7th day.... "PES I love you guys :]." Just body composition tweaks from the ABE is awesome . Add alphamine and erase to dry and lean out.

    Edit- just saw your final stack good stuff
    ABE is one of a kind supplement
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    ABE is one of a kind supplement
    I thought it was **** until it kicked in. Guess I'm impatient
    Recomping with it now, low carb days high protein high fat then carb reloads with low fat . Oh em gee I love it

  10. Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    I thought it was **** until it kicked in. Guess I'm impatient
    Recomping with it now, low carb days high protein high fat then carb reloads with low fat . Oh em gee I love it
    I know exactly what you mean. When I'm off ABE, I'm in a dark place haha
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    I know exactly what you mean. When I'm off ABE, I'm in a dark place haha
    Ha that's like when I'm off alphamine

  12. Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    Ha that's like when I'm off alphamine
    Yep, Alphamine is another one haha. Basically if I'm off any PES product, it a very sad dark time.
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  13. I'm also thinking of adding compound 20, overkill i know. but get this, yesterday i did a dark choc binge (literally 2 blocks) after a fast, and i swear (its obvious really) I ended up more lean today in comparison to a regular restricted diet day (i'm taking cortisol supps atm aswell, endo amp. RIP PP). but i really think the high cocoa in the dark choc sent me into an anabolic state, and looking at compound 20 it basically utilizes the same cocoa based extracts for anabolic increase, coupled with the lowered cortisol it got me leaner and harder noticeably, anyway end of random thoughts lol, pretty funny when you see real life examples of how some of these supps works i think.

  14. With the stack you stated you are going to run earlier, I would wait to run Compound 20. You don't want to add too much at one time. Also if you have never ran the product, you won't know what is working and what is not working. Always good to run products solo before stacking to see what you get from it.

    If you want, run what you have planned, take a few weeks off, then run the V-1 and Compound 20 next.
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  15. you are right kbayne, I know both PES and USPLabs are great companies, but have always wondered which is better, I reckon I will do the beast PES stack this time and a beast USPLabs stack next time, that should sort out my curiosities hehe.

  16. Excellent plan. You will get a longer run out of it with more gains IMO.
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  17. I agree with Kbayne here; the stack you have lined up is great as is. I like the idea of saving Compound20 for a separate run with Versa-1 as well. It's a great combo that should work well with your current goal. I'll actually be adding both to my cut next week
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    I agree with Kbayne here; the stack you have lined up is great as is. I like the idea of saving Compound20 for a separate run with Versa-1 as well. It's a great combo that should work well with your current goal. I'll actually be adding both to my cut next week
    You've got some crazy stacks happening
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
    you are right kbayne, I know both PES and USPLabs are great companies, but have always wondered which is better, I reckon I will do the beast PES stack this time and a beast USPLabs stack next time, that should sort out my curiosities hehe.
    If you're still going to be cutting, I'd recommend going with Versa-1, Compound20, OEP (new powder available), and AP for your "beast USPlabs stack".

    Considering you're already training fasted, the FTP (Fasted Training Protocol) with AP would be a great option as well.

    The below links have a lot of great information on both.

    http://usplabsdirect.com/forum/topic...ol-ftp-thread/

    http://usplabsdirect.com/forum/forum...-ftp-protocol/
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    You've got some crazy stacks happening
    Should be fun. I can honestly say that I've been looking forward to cutting haha.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    If you're still going to be cutting, I'd recommend going with Versa-1, Compound20, OEP (new powder available), and AP for your "beast USPlabs stack".

    Considering you're already training fasted, the FTP (Fasted Training Protocol) with AP would be a great option as well.

    The below links have a lot of great information on both.

    http://usplabsdirect.com/forum/topic...ol-ftp-thread/

    http://usplabsdirect.com/forum/forum...-ftp-protocol/
    This ^^^^

    The logs are rolling on the Compound20/Versa stacks and users have been extremely happy. Pair that with the countless success stories with FTP, game over.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Should be fun. I can honestly say that I've been looking forward to cutting haha.
    When that is the case, you know it is going to be a more then successful cut
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    When that is the case, you know it is going to be a more then successful cut
    That's what I'm shooting for
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  24. Ending up buying 2 bottles of everything, but sadly went with OG versions and switched from alphamine to Alpha-T2. Still, 8 weeks of Anabeta, Erase, Alpha-T2 and DCP plus got some free OG dexaprine, should be pretty good, hard to beat value for money wise anyway ($220 damn cheap). I'll do a beastlier stack later I guess :P

  25. Should still be really solid. I like the look of it, definitely post feedback on how it goes!
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