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    Saw this on Yahoo today.


    if anyone happens to GAF.

    Sports Supplement Linked to Cardiac Issues, Death | Yahoo! Health

    i will still buy oxyelite, and Jack3d. i got your back USPlabs.

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    those stories are so stupid...of course if you OD or take DMAA and run a marathon it aint gonna be good
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    Yea imma take half a bottle of jack3d in a gallon of water and run a marathon should be fine ill prolly win too!
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    Supplements are only as dangerous and reckless as their users. You see the idiots who died from caffeine overdose by drinking 4 monster BfC cans.... How the ****KK do you even drink that much Ina short period of time and how would you ever think that's a good idea .... Jesus
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    You can die from ODing on anything
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    People love to hate on the BBing world of supplements and any chance they get, they will. Take it as a grain of salt
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    That Yahoo article is nothing, I was surprised last weekend to see the Jack3D issue on Fox news last Sat. They kinda tore into *** and Jack3d about the soldiers deaths and said the Military pulled the stuff from all venues on base that sold it. I am a Air Force Firefighter and would NOT take the supplement for the training and work that I do as I can see how it could possibly exacerbate an existing issue. I think Jack3d is made strictly for the gym and that's it, not running, not training, not cardio etc. Just lifting. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You can die from ODing on anything
    This is true. But this point is even more true:

    You can blame any product you die from even when ODing.

    And in America you can sue and win for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You can die from ODing on anything
    Porn ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    This is true. But this point is even more true:

    You can blame any product you die from even when ODing.

    And in America you can sue and win for anything.
    I read that a guy is sueing Dr. Oz for an insomneia (sleeping) disorder remedy where you put white rice in a sock then microwave it to heat it up and then put your foot in there for 20 min. Guy got his little toe toes burned - good grief !
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoooter View Post
    I read that a guy is sueing Dr. Oz for an insomneia (sleeping) disorder remedy where you put white rice in a sock then microwave it to heat it up and then put your foot in there for 20 min. Guy got his little toe toes burned - good grief !
    My fiance didn't think this was a big deal, but here goes:

    Yesterday we went to Wal-Mart (that actually isn't the joke, but it could be) and a sign on the ****ing entrance to the store says "Stop- Check car for unattended children."

    Yes in 2013, we have to REMIND people that before they enter places they may want to check and make sure they didn't leave their children in the car.

    "Oh thank God for that sign. I almost forgot Billy!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    My fiance didn't think this was a big deal, but here goes:

    Yesterday we went to Wal-Mart (that actually isn't the joke, but it could be) and a sign on the ****ing entrance to the store says "Stop- Check car for unattended children."

    Yes in 2013, we have to REMIND people that before they enter places they may want to check and make sure they didn't leave their children in the car.

    "Oh thank God for that sign. I almost forgot Billy!"
    good grief lol. where are you from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You can die from ODing on anything
    Almost OD on some water last night
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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    good grief lol. where are you from?
    Kansas. Where stupidity is in the drinking water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Kansas. Where stupidity is in the drinking water.
    haha.close to me. im from iowa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Take it as a grain of salt
    Salt is bad for you and will cause water retention and may elevate blood pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    Salt is bad for you and will cause water retention and may elevate blood pressure.
    Hypertension derived from salt is debatable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Hypertension derived from salt is debatable
    i know you are just like joking but do you have any studies on this? i take over 7g of sodium a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    i know you are just like joking but do you have any studies on this? i take over 7g of sodium a day
    It is said that the guidelines around salt (of which a part of is sodium) are based on hypothesis rather than actual conclusive evidence. The JAMA study ( which has been questioned) found that consuming too little salt can be bad for you. While it has been questioned, it has also been backed http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744471_3 making formulating an opinion somewhat hard.

    FWIW I haven't spent a great deal of time examining the link, mostly considering I take in approx. 3,000mgs which, while above recommendations, is not enough to be of concern for me.

    The JAMA study also stated that consuming less than 2g per day raised 5 year mortality rates by 37% which is far less than the 460mg my country advocates for.

    But i'm not too sure where I stand on this, I was just implying it is debatable
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    Im scared to take a preworkout on leg day just cause my heart rate is elevated dramatically so to take it during a marathon you gotta be crazy or stupid. Lol
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    If anyone needs a pre, on leg days.... then your not doing legs hard enough.
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    What if i just wanted to enhance my leg day. See what i did there. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino67jg View Post
    If anyone needs a pre, on leg days.... then your not doing legs hard enough.
    Leg days are the days when I need a "pick-me-up", I literally get tired just anticipating the workload i'm about to impart on my legs.
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    I know not many of us are overly excited to do legs so i think i would need a pre more. But everyones different. I was just trying to see how enhanced effects me and all 4 different days i workout.
  

  
 

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