Best "non-jittery" pre-workout supplement?

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  1. Best "non-jittery" pre-workout supplement?


    I never bought into the pre-workout supplements as most made me feel real nervous and jittery...then I was screwing around and tried SoBe Adrenaline (sugar free.) I've been drinking one of these before each workout and I've been having great workout after great workout. (Very possible that it is some kind of placebo effect...but I've always been immune to that in the past.)

    So I wanted to try another pre-workout supplement, but one that does not cause the nervous/shaky feeling that ephedrine (for me) always caused.

    Can someone recommend something?

    Thanks


  2. Quote Originally Posted by cpa5oh
    I never bought into the pre-workout supplements as most made me feel real nervous and jittery...then I was screwing around and tried SoBe Adrenaline (sugar free.) I've been drinking one of these before each workout and I've been having great workout after great workout. (Very possible that it is some kind of placebo effect...but I've always been immune to that in the past.)

    So I wanted to try another pre-workout supplement, but one that does not cause the nervous/shaky feeling that ephedrine (for me) always caused.

    Can someone recommend something?

    Thanks
    M5AA (if you want an androgen)
    ALCAR (best if you use 1/4 - 1/2 tab of vasopro)

    I have the jittery panicky feeling with ephedrine as well. BUt I found that if I only use it pre-workout stacked with ALCAR and in small doses that I don't get the jitters or crash, but I feel more motivated.
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  3. Cool


    Diesel Fuel. You can take from 1 - 3 pre WO and it will not make you jittery.
    May make you horny as hell when it is wearing off though! (don't ask me why. Some
    kind of herb it it)

  4. H.E.A.T., and green tea give me lasting energy all day, and then some for my workout.


  5. I get the same jitters so to speak, but I've found if you eat it with some food, it will not hit you that way.


    Without food, try Scorch from MAN. I find it to give me a smooth bit of energy without the shakes. Plus, that in combination with Sesathin are a great weightloss stack without even changing your diet. HOWEVER - I do not recommend stacking Scorch with Syneburn like they recommend on some sites. That will give you fits if you are stim sensitive as for me it really comes with an energy crash at the end.
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  6. Try legal gear powertrain, this along with a few grams of l-tyrosine makes a great pre-workout energizer.

  7. I'm really sorry to bring this thread back but for the love of god who is the girl in your avatar Max Silver??

  8. I just started using Black Star Labs "GO" about a week and a half and notice quite a bit of difference when I'm working out and a little tired before the work out.

    Give it a try, the price ain't too bad either.

    RMT
    (Doh!!! Sorry just noticed the dates on the posts too.....)

  9. BSL GO!, and then well see about AMP.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Khryz
    I'm really sorry to bring this thread back but for the love of god who is the girl in your avatar Max Silver??
    http://www.teenportals.com/chi/

  11. Probably will not give you the effect you are looking for but I prefer taking a Bcomplex a short time before exercise when I am tired.
  12. Question Methyl-Rage


    a lifting bud of mine swears that Methyl-Rage gets him in an almost trance-like state before and during workouts, i haven't tried it myself as of yet but it makes sense based on the benefits of the substance...

    have you tried M-DHT?

  13. VPX red line, only stimulate that dosnt make me jitry or shaky. i get good energy from it.
  14. ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday
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    What! Be careful, if you take enough of Red Line it could make you very shaky and nervous! I once took 3 bottles of the RTD when I was at work at the Vitamin Shoppe and I was acting like it was "Coke in a can baby! Redballs...I mean Redline is a great energy supp! At least the RTD is!
  15. ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torps
    God bless you Torps! You are now my bestfriend!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Probably will not give you the effect you are looking for but I prefer taking a Bcomplex a short time before exercise when I am tired.
    I like the Bs also. I take 1-2mg of B12 preworkout and really like the feel it gives.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by AcuDoc
    I take 1-2mg of B12 preworkout and really like the feel it gives.
    What type of B12? Sublingual, liquid, etc?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by size
    What type of B12? Sublingual, liquid, etc?
    I've used sublingual liquid before but right now I'm using Pure Encapsulation's Methylcobalamin. There are different b12s (cobalamins) and cynaocobalamin is the most common form. The methylcobalamin is in capsule form. I really like it.

    I've been using it for the past several months- I get it wholesale because I order diff supplements for my patients. I tried to copy some abstracts from Adobe on methylcobalamin but it's not working. If I can I'll post them later.

  19. This is what I make for my clients and take myself:

    ALCAR 4.7g
    L-tyrosine 2.5g
    Betaine 890mg
    Choline bitartrate 480
    Choline citrate 420
    Glucuronolactone 830mg
    Caffeine 150mg
    Emer-gen-C 1.6g (168mg mineral ascorbates)
    Ascorbic acid 37mg

    Add in a B-complex and you're gold. I make mine sour pineapple-orange flavor.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-

  20. head over to avant and look up the AMP threads. PA has a hot product on his hands if he can keep it legal. the rumor is it's a analogue of a controlled narcotic; but who cares?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by chasec
    head over to avant and look up the AMP threads. PA has a hot product on his hands if he can keep it legal. the rumor is it's a analogue of a controlled narcotic; but who cares?
    Is it "non-jittery"?

  22. Size, you could also try Astragalus (huang qi) extract at double whatever dose is on the bottle. It is very safe and used to increase energy. I use it off and on. If you try it make sure it's the extract not just the powdered herb.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by AcuDoc
    Size, you could also try Astragalus (huang qi) extract at double whatever dose is on the bottle. It is very safe and used to increase energy. I use it off and on. If you try it make sure it's the extract not just the powdered herb.
    Astralgus is great for protecting your liver too!
    I have to try it yet.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by cpa5oh
    I never bought into the pre-workout supplements as most made me feel real nervous and jittery...then I was screwing around and tried SoBe Adrenaline (sugar free.) I've been drinking one of these before each workout and I've been having great workout after great workout. (Very possible that it is some kind of placebo effect...but I've always been immune to that in the past.)

    So I wanted to try another pre-workout supplement, but one that does not cause the nervous/shaky feeling that ephedrine (for me) always caused.

    Can someone recommend something?

    Thanks
    I never have such feelings. And i tried many stimulants. I dont respond well to them and i think that most is a waste of money. I think real strenght and endurance are a better thing (in one word: CEE).
    Recently I'm trying taurine pre-workout and i'm liking it. I really must add ALCAR.

    B12... i take the last 1-2 grams after the third meal which is about 2h before gym, dunno if some energy stays from it.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitatis
    This is what I make for my clients and take myself:

    ALCAR 4.7g
    L-tyrosine 2.5g
    Betaine 890mg
    Choline bitartrate 480
    Choline citrate 420
    Glucuronolactone 830mg
    Caffeine 150mg
    Emer-gen-C 1.6g (168mg mineral ascorbates)
    Ascorbic acid 37mg

    Add in a B-complex and you're gold. I make mine sour pineapple-orange flavor.
    Thats a ****load of ALCAR. I would up the betaine and choline dose 2.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Is it "non-jittery"?
    it's being described as "very smooth" in both build up and let down. here's a thread to read about it; however it's kinda long, another is listed also

    http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=1&t=14534&
    http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=2&t=15689&st=0

  27. Quote Originally Posted by meathead1987
    Thats a ****load of ALCAR. I would up the betaine and choline dose 2.
    You think so? Oh, and the B-complex I use has an extra 100mg of choline. So, that's about a gram of choline, you really think it should be increased? Mind you, taste is a factor and choline is like fish. Also, I have to fit this into either a tablespoon or a 20cc scoop ( which is slightly bigger).

    Dude, yeah, you're right:

    "A study on the pharmacokinetics of oral L-carnitine in human subjects found no differences in plasma carnitine after 2 g vs. 6 g, indicating that 2 g is already more than the saturable dose." --D.Tolson

    AND

    " The dosage of choline is generally 1-2 times that of carnitine."--D.Tolson

    I actualy wanted 3g of ALCAR but somewhere I forked up the math and ended with more than what I wanted of ALCAR and caffeine. It's a good thing I reduced the caffeine amount at the last second (on a hunch) though otherwise it would've been like 250mg per scoop.

    Well, I've already sold more than half of the mix off so I guess I'll go back to the drawing board and fine tune some things. Thanks a lot for bringing those dosages to my attention.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-
  28. Talking


    Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitatis
    Anabolic Minds saved me from BB.com

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    You like that do ya?
    I notice you just started with taurine and you are enjoying it. Me too. Taurine is so cheap and works great. I really am surprised that more people don't use simple things like taurine and ALCAR.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitatis
    You like that do ya?
    I notice you just started with taurine and you are enjoying it. Me too. Taurine is so cheap and works great. I really am surprised that more people don't use simple things like taurine and ALCAR.
    Yeah! It is! You never stop learning.

    I was just thinking to start a new thread instead i ask here.
    I'm taking taurine only on workout days as stimulant. which benefits i would have taking every day (5g is my dose and i'm small). Its really cheap and i got a kilo bulk.
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