TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...

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  1. Re: TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    No problem Valdez....

    I aint mad at ya....

    In fact I love you....
    The feeling is mutual

    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    btw....

    I wish if we could know if the Italian DAA study had done pre- and after bloods drawn at the same time of the day.

    I,having done total T bloods many times,
    have noticed very big oscillations in total T throughout the day,
    with my levels being quite approximately 40% higher in the morning and 40% lower in the afternoon.

    That`s one way to fabricate a study.

    If these oscillations are a normal phenomenon,they could have drawn bloods pre-DAA for all the participants in the afternoon,and have the come in the morning for the after-DAA drawings.

    Just saying.


    p.s.my levels were also higher when I was fasted,and lower when not.
    I frequently get my bloods taken fwiw.

    The Italian study and the most recently published study both did baseline values which is standard in studies. How else would they be able to determine variances? You should read the studies killer

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    The feeling is mutual



    I frequently get my bloods taken fwiw.

    The Italian study and the most recently published study both did baseline values which is standard in studies. How else would they be able to determine variances? You should read the studies killer

    - Valdez
    Thanks V!

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  3. You can google search all you want...Im real and its my results that matter...I know of the google searches (and forums, blogs) hence the reason I tried the stack. Thanks for this insightful (yet blind) input.

  4. For some reason when reading the first post all I could hear was Bob Porter from Office Space reading it.

    Dunno why.
    The Historic PES Legend
  5. Re: TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by Kainalu View Post
    You can google search all you want...Im real and its my results that matter...I know of the google searches (and forums, blogs) hence the reason I tried the stack. Thanks for this insightful (yet blind) input.
    Chill out man... There is no need to be so confrontational. I'm pretty sure we got it all figured out via pm. I'm glad you messaged me and like I said I'm pretty confident the problem has been resolved on where the cycle went wrong.

    One thing tho I forgot to ask you how long was the cycle? I'm at work so scrolling through posts isn't really ideal at the moment.

    Lets give him a chance guys.

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Kainalu View Post
    You can google search all you want...Im real and its my results that matter...I know of the google searches (and forums, blogs) hence the reason I tried the stack. Thanks for this insightful (yet blind) input.
    Best of luck with your training goals in 2013.
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  7. DAA is the new tribulus.
  8. TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    I'm about to do this stack :/

  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    I'm about to do this stack :/
    Its a solid stack. There have been plenty who have done this stack with great results. Not everyone will respond as well as others. All you can do is run it yourself and see what happens. I've ran DAA + Erase a few times and had great success. I haven't ran endosurge though.
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  10. Re: TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    In my opinion DAA is the new tribulus.
    Fixed... Come on man. Its getting absurd you cannot compare the two.

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  11. I use DAA and it definitely increases libido. If nothing else it's a cheap supp for that
  12. Re: TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    DAA is the new tribulus.
    I also can't find your bulbine thread anymore...?

    I'm at work but I took time to find this for you while you repeatedly make erroneous comments about DAA.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...8.00910.x/full

    You're welcome

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    I also can't find your bulbine thread anymore...?

    I'm at work but I took time to find this for you while you repeatedly make erroneous comments about DAA.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...8.00910.x/full

    You're welcome

    - Valdez
    Do work Valdez
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  14. TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Its a solid stack. There have been plenty who have done this stack with great results. Not everyone will respond as well as others. All you can do is run it yourself and see what happens. I've ran DAA + Erase a few times and had great success. I haven't ran endosurge though.
    I am going endo + d-pol + erase

    I'm looking forward to it

  15. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    I am going endo + d-pol + erase

    I'm looking forward to it
    And you should. Don't let what others say affect what you think the stack will do for you. Not saying you are, just saying haha. Hope it goes good for you though.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    And you should. Don't let what others say affect what you think the stack will do for you. Not saying you are, just saying haha. Hope it goes good for you though.
    One thing ive learned about this industry is if something interests you go for it. Find out if works for you yourself. Been off my DAA/Endo/Erase/F-95 stack for 5 days now and I can tell.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post

    One thing ive learned about this industry is if something interests you go for it. Find out if works for you yourself. Been off my DAA/Endo/Erase/F-95 stack for 5 days now and I can tell.
    Exactly. When I came off Erase Pro + Anabeta Elite + DAA, I could tell there was a huge difference.

    I like to follow this when it comes to movies also. Critics are going to hate but if I think the movie will be good and gets bad reviews, I am still going to go. Kind of off topic I know haha.
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  18. Re: TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Exactly. When I came off Erase Pro + Anabeta Elite + DAA, I could tell there was a huge difference.

    I like to follow this when it comes to movies also. Critics are going to hate but if I think the movie will be good and gets bad reviews, I am still going to go. Kind of off topic I know haha.
    Great analogy!

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  19. Chill out? Bro, check yorself. I'll be me and if its taken as confrontational then so be it ...thanks...as for your question I ran it for 6 weeks...
  20. Re: TRUTH about Endosurge, SNS DAA and PES Erase Pro Stack...


    Quote Originally Posted by Kainalu View Post
    Chill out? Bro, check yorself. I'll be me and if its taken as confrontational then so be it ...thanks...as for your question I ran it for 6 weeks...
    Sounds great excellent! Thanks for your feedback and good luck in your future endeavors

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  21. I believe the earth is the center of our solar system not the sun...but I tend to think there is some truth in a peer reviewed study that has never had a duplicate study with contrary results.

    Endosurge, DAA, and Erase all worked well for me. If your normal T values are high you may not notice any results. If you're over 30 and noticed you don't have the same edge you once did these products may work for you. They're not test, so don't expect to put 20 lbs on in 8 weeks. If nothing else you should definitely notice when you come of erase. I hate it when an Erase cycle ends. I like the dryer less water retention look. I had even better results when I swapped BioForge for Endosurge. Endosurge is very inexpensive, practically free in some deals from Nutra. Bio Forge is better but costs 2x more.

  22. FTR, i'm 44...glad it worked for you. Maybe I will try DAA again n the future (maybe) but most def not SNS DAA. Can I ask what DAA you used for your cycle? And I used Erase Pro, just fyi.

  23. I used bulk daa powder from hard rhino/muscle empire. I think most daa is probably made by the same 1-2 mfg in China. I have a bottle of iForce intimidate I will run I about 8 weeks so I'll let you know how that goes. Intimidate is methyl daa and iforce claims it is 100x more effective. I dose 3.5 g of daa every day and prefer to take it at night. If you don't get 7 hrs or more sleep you prob won't get the full effect. I prefer an 8 week cycle. Just start to notice it around day 14-15. I prefer OG erase as 75mg of the AI is too much for me to take for more than 2 weeks. With og Erase it is 25 mg per cap so I can control the dosage. I start erase at about 2.5 weeks after starting daa. Some people do not respond to some products, but give it a second try and hopefully you'll find a better result. If your diet is missing or deficient in test building materials this could also play a role.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Jcweinsx View Post
    I dose 3.5 g of daa every day and prefer to take it at night. If you don't get 7 hrs or more sleep you prob won't get the full effect. I prefer an 8 week cycle. Just start to notice it around day 14-15. If your diet is missing or deficient in test building materials this could also play a role.
    Lol

    In my opinion and according to my blood test,it does not work at all.

    It does provide a libido boost the first two runs,but I suspect this happens through a different mechanism,not androgen boost.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Kainalu View Post
    Just an update...this stack sucks! wouldnt recommend any of these products. Endosurge was blah (some nice sleep days 4-7 but thats it). SNS DAA? nope! Cheap product and no more biz from me to that company. Erase Pro? Erased my hard earned money and that was it. Nothing from that either. Tell ppl the truth when recommending stacks. Horrible Horrible Horrible! My routine switched up for the stack. No special feeling. No major increase in strength that I wasnt doing on my own before stack. No LIBIDO increase...more like killed it for 2 weeks...gonna stick with protein from foods and my power/building workout routines. Only supp will be my Jacked that I take maybe 2x a week at most on days I train after work... adios!
    Lol
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