cissus xt for ligament pain?
- 03-03-2013, 10:21 PM
cissus xt for ligament pain?
So about 1.5 months ago I tore ligaments in my thumb, the condition was classified as "game keepers thumb" its that inside ligament of your thumb, forgot what it was called. Since that nice ligament tearing came with a fracture I did not need surgery since the ligament will heal with the fracture. I had a cast on for 5 weeks, checked every two weeks. Apparently the ligament reattached to the joint within two weeks and the other 3 was for the healing process.My doctor said that even after getting my cast off this my thumb will still be sore for at least 1-2 months. So I was wondering if supplementing with Cissus would be a decent way to keep my thumb ligament healthy and aid in the further healing process back to 100%.The only logs I saw were for joints, im curious about ligaments as they are different (of course : P ) .
- 03-04-2013, 12:16 AM
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03-04-2013, 12:17 AM
Orange Triad + Cissus would be very nice
03-04-2013, 12:24 AM
It will help after you are 100% healed in terms of strength but will do little to speed recovery. We sell Cissus powder as well but as I said, it won't do that much for recovery. Unfortunetly ligaments and tendons heal with a timeframe of their own and has more to do with strengthening the surrounding muscles ( in your case, its a bit tougher )
03-04-2013, 12:31 AM
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03-04-2013, 12:41 AM
03-04-2013, 12:46 AM
great stuff guys - I've been suffering from right arm tricep/bicep/forearm tendon issues and left shoulder pain. I'll add cissus to my mix - Glucosamine is already taken daily.
03-04-2013, 12:51 AM
Yes, conversion. Generally the inital phase of collagen formation is type 3 for several weeks before conversion into the higher tensile strength type 1 which can take up to a full year depending on the injury. Localized inflamation at this point is pretty much nonexistant. I for one would love if cissus dramatically increased ligament healing, I would sell a lot more of it
03-04-2013, 12:53 AM
03-04-2013, 12:56 AM
03-04-2013, 12:58 AM
Thank r1balla - I should be icing it more but I'll jump in the tub too. Can't hurt. Anyone recommend elbow wraps? A guy at my gym wears them all the time since he had tennis elbow and he claims the wraps helped him heal and keep him healthy...
I'm just not doing any "arm-specific" movements (curls, triceps extensions, etc) but I am benching and rowing which tend to aggravate the injuries slightly.
03-04-2013, 01:10 AM
03-04-2013, 01:34 AM
Maybe the term "conversion" was misunderstood and I should have said re-orginization of type 3 to type 1 within the ligament? I didn't mean a physical conversion, rather a converison in the collagen makeup. Its different post injury vs a normal ligament. Initially there is a higher percentage of type 3 formed ( higher than a normal ligament ) before the formation of type I occurs. The point being that by the time the formation of type 1 collagen is formed, the inflammation phase is pretty much nonexistant. If there is another aspect of cissus that I am overlooking, then by all means let me know because I am missing something in my ad copy
03-04-2013, 01:40 AM
03-04-2013, 02:44 AM
In terms of inflammation, I was speaking more about inflammation in the case of re-aggaravation of the site, which I fear could be quite possible given that its his thumb.
03-04-2013, 09:34 AM
03-04-2013, 11:59 AM
03-04-2013, 12:34 PM
can any of this info be applied to muscle strains/pulls? In my case I believe my tricep/elbow is tendon related pain whereas my bicep/forearm is possibly muscle pull.
03-05-2013, 02:06 AM
03-05-2013, 07:07 AM
Yes an no. Muscle pulls heal much quicker than both both ligament and tendon injuries. Cissus can provide anti-inflammatory aid for long term but nothing a bag of ice wont do post injury. Cissus IMO is more long term and can help prevent re-injury along with proper rehab.
03-05-2013, 10:44 AM
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