Picked up ABE, Versa-1, Alphamine and Erase Pro Need Dosing Advic

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  1. Picked up ABE, Versa-1, Alphamine and Erase Pro Need Dosing Advic


    Hey guys,

    Going to run this sick stack.

    I want to make it into an 8-12 week stack, lose fat, gain strength / recomp.

    I was wondering how you would dose them from week to week? I am not sure I would take alphamine on workout days because it does noticeably make my heart beat faster, and I got jack3d micro as part of the versa-1 deal + mixing different stims on alphamine = probably a bad idea.

    Here's what I was thinking for week 1-4, but I am not sure about the rest...

    Week 1-4: ABE, VERSA 1 and Alphamine
    Week 5-8: ?
    Week 8-12: ?

    This should be a sick stack!


  2. How many bottles of each do you have and when do you typically workout (time of the day)?
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  3. Versa-1 is a waste. It has no science if you read the case studies. I have tried it and there's absolutely nothing from it.

    The other stuff is very good.

  4. How many bottles of each do you have and when do you typically workout (time of the day)?
    I have a bottle of each, but will order more of the ones I need for longer. I workout around 4-5PM

  5. Quote Originally Posted by drew1204 View Post
    I have a bottle of each, but will order more of the ones I need for longer. I workout around 4-5PM
    Ok since you work out in the afternoon you could conceivably use Alphamine in the morning upon waking and Jacked Micro before your workouts. That way you could extend your Alphamine tub if only used that way.

    If not you could separate them into different months with a bottle of each like:
    Month 1: ABE + Alphamine
    Month 2: Erase Pro + Jacked Micro + V-1
    or
    Month 1: ABE + Alphamine (in the morning) + Micro Pre-workout
    Month 2: Erase Pro + Alphamine (in the morning) + Micro Pre-workout + V-1

    I really like the idea of Alphamine with ABE tho (love Forskolin combined with the ingredients in Alphamine). This way you get an idea how the products are working more individually than just running all the products at one.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Versa-1 is a waste. It has no science if you read the case studies. I have tried it and there's absolutely nothing from it.

    The other stuff is very good.
    I'm not a huge USPLabs guy, but my workouts improved noticeably from my first dose of Versa-1. In my third week of use and I'm harder, fuller and thicker. It may not have worked for you, but it's idiocy to call it "a waste" given all the positive reports from users with no affiliation to USP. Lend something positive to the thread or don't bother posting.

  7. I'd go with either of the options bolt laid out for you.
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  8. My God that is an expensive OTC stack; I would consider logging it

  9. Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post

    I'm not a huge USPLabs guy, but my workouts improved noticeably from my first dose of Versa-1. In my third week of use and I'm harder, fuller and thicker. It may not have worked for you, but it's idiocy to call it "a waste" given all the positive reports from users with no affiliation to USP. Lend something positive to the thread or don't bother posting.
    Ok then read the science or lack of. This board is USP obsessed. And just about everyone is a rep now so there's no impartial advice

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Versa-1 is a waste. It has no science if you read the case studies. I have tried it and there's absolutely nothing from it.

    The other stuff is very good.
    How long did you run it?

    I'm 3 weeks in and I can definitely tell V-1 is working. Focus, strength, DOMS, and vascularity are all increasing.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Ok since you work out in the afternoon you could conceivably use Alphamine in the morning upon waking and Jacked Micro before your workouts. That way you could extend your Alphamine tub if only used that way.

    If not you could separate them into different months with a bottle of each like:
    Month 1: ABE + Alphamine
    Month 2: Erase Pro + Jacked Micro + V-1
    or
    Month 1: ABE + Alphamine (in the morning) + Micro Pre-workout
    Month 2: Erase Pro + Alphamine (in the morning) + Micro Pre-workout + V-1

    I really like the idea of Alphamine with ABE tho (love Forskolin combined with the ingredients in Alphamine). This way you get an idea how the products are working more individually than just running all the products at one.
    Awesome thanks a lot. I am looking forward to trying it out!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    I'm not a huge USPLabs guy, but my workouts improved noticeably from my first dose of Versa-1. In my third week of use and I'm harder, fuller and thicker. It may not have worked for you, but it's idiocy to call it "a waste" given all the positive reports from users with no affiliation to USP. Lend something positive to the thread or don't bother posting.
    Sounds good to me. Worth a try. If it works it works!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by drew1204 View Post

    Sounds good to me. Worth a try. If it works it works!
    V1 has made an impact on me as well. day 13 it clicked for me, a marked difference from my previous workout on day 11. not saying its magic or anything but for me it has been very good. On about day 40 now.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post

    Ok then read the science or lack of. This board is USP obsessed. And just about everyone is a rep now so there's no impartial advice
    First and foremost I'm already in the midst of running the product, and I'm getting results from it, so the science (or lack of science) is irrelevant to me. The cost may keep me from running it again, but at the three-week mark I'm very happy that I jumped on the IC deal. Second, while it's true that this is a very pro-USP board, I already stated that I'm not one of those guys. Hell, the only other USP products I've used are OEP and Modern BCAA. Third, even if it were true that "most" people on the board are reps (but it's not), there would still only be a handful of USP reps given the large number of companies that are represented here. I'm also pretty sure that neither of the two guys who echoed my opinion on Versa-1 are USP reps. Again, it's fine if you don't like the product, but try to at least act like you have a little bit of intelligence.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by drew1204 View Post
    Hey guys,

    Going to run this sick stack.

    I want to make it into an 8-12 week stack, lose fat, gain strength / recomp.

    I was wondering how you would dose them from week to week? I am not sure I would take alphamine on workout days because it does noticeably make my heart beat faster, and I got jack3d micro as part of the versa-1 deal + mixing different stims on alphamine = probably a bad idea.

    Here's what I was thinking for week 1-4, but I am not sure about the rest...

    Week 1-4: ABE, VERSA 1 and Alphamine
    Week 5-8: ?
    Week 8-12: ?

    This should be a sick stack!
    Bolt laid out some great info.

    Another possible option is to bridge ABE (week1-8) into Versa-1 (week 5-12) with week 5-8 running both the ABE+Versa-1
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Bolt laid out some great info.

    Another possible option is to bridge ABE (week1-8) into Versa-1 (week 5-12) with week 5-8 running both the ABE+Versa-1
    Ok thanks. When should I take the alphamine and erase pro then?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by drew1204 View Post

    Ok thanks. When should I take the alphamine and erase pro then?
    Alphamine 1-2 scoops in the morning and another scoop later in the afternoon. Make sure you take your second dose on an empty stomach too. Take EP either in the morning or pre-workout.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Alphamine 1-2 scoops in the morning and another scoop later in the afternoon. Make sure you take your second dose on an empty stomach too. Take EP either in the morning or pre-workout.
    This is what I'd recommend as well. I prefer my EP pre-workout on training days and in the morning on non-training days.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    How long did you run it?

    I'm 3 weeks in and I can definitely tell V-1 is working. Focus, strength, DOMS, and vascularity are all increasing.
    Agreed: yes, yes, yes, and a BIG yes to vascularity.

    Oh and by the way, the last USP products I tried were OG jack3d and OG OEP. They were great products, that's why I returned. Gotta hate how all of this USP bashing started over one bunk product (pink magic - didn't work for most people).. All the others have great feedback, and proven results.

    Why would PES put the same ingredients in Enhanced? Which is also getting STELLAR reviews!

    Ignorance is bliss jamesm...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Ok then read the science or lack of. This board is USP obsessed. And just about everyone is a rep now so there's no impartial advice
    Would you mind posting the science you read for others to read?

    The only relevant science on the effects (that users are reporting) of VERSA-1 is our animal studies. You have not read those until our patent is issued then it wil become public.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Ok since you work out in the afternoon you could conceivably use Alphamine in the morning upon waking and Jacked Micro before your workouts. That way you could extend your Alphamine tub if only used that way.

    If not you could separate them into different months with a bottle of each like:
    Month 1: ABE + Alphamine
    Month 2: Erase Pro + Jacked Micro + V-1
    or
    Month 1: ABE + Alphamine (in the morning) + Micro Pre-workout
    Month 2: Erase Pro + Alphamine (in the morning) + Micro Pre-workout + V-1

    I really like the idea of Alphamine with ABE tho (love Forskolin combined with the ingredients in Alphamine). This way you get an idea how the products are working more individually than just running all the products at one.
    agree with this! solid response
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  22. Anabeta + Versa 1 is money for vascularity
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Anabeta + Versa 1 is money for vascularity
    I'm excited to run this!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post

    Would you mind posting the science you read for others to read?

    The only relevant science on the effects (that users are reporting) of VERSA-1 is our animal studies. You have not read those until our patent is issued then it wil become public.
    There's other references in the literature besides USP. Regardless, what's the patent #? I looked for it but couldn't find anything. And yes, I know how to search, I'm in IP law.

    I'd like to see what the patent is for and where it's at. Patents typically take 3 years to issie

  25. Quote Originally Posted by MonteCedillo View Post
    I'm excited to run this!
    ya i plan to incorporate this into my cutting stack. maybe versa + anabeta + alphamine or something like that. still have a month to decide.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    ya i plan to incorporate this into my cutting stack. maybe versa + anabeta + alphamine or something like that. still have a month to decide.
    I'd go ABE over Anabeta for a cut
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post

    I'm not a huge USPLabs guy, but my workouts improved noticeably from my first dose of Versa-1. In my third week of use and I'm harder, fuller and thicker. It may not have worked for you, but it's idiocy to call it "a waste" given all the positive reports from users with no affiliation to USP. Lend something positive to the thread or don't bother posting.
    I am experiencing the same results with versa1 myself also increased hunger.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by 808shredded View Post
    I am experiencing the same results with versa1 myself also increased hunger.
    Congrats man! Just versa-1 alone?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    ya i plan to incorporate this into my cutting stack. maybe versa + anabeta + alphamine or something like that. still have a month to decide.
    Day 1 on VERSA-1/|AnaBeta|Erase|Jack3dMicro
    Siiiiiiick Pumps and great vascularity on a push day... This is going to make march a very fun month!!!

  30. Quote Originally Posted by MonteCedillo View Post

    Day 1 on VERSA-1/|AnaBeta|Erase|Jack3dMicro
    Siiiiiiick Pumps and great vascularity on a push day... This is going to make march a very fun month!!!
    Going to be a Very Anabolic Extreme Jacked month
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