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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    OG would work slightly better (I think Matt has estimated somewhere around 10% or so), but Smolder is very effective.
    When my balls drop, ill go back to using OG.

    F*ck dat shiat lol.. never again.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by MrBEEF View Post
    So Matt,

    you're saying shower, dry, apply, then wait for a couple hours before exercise? Is this time important? For me I shower/heat the area with a hairdryer(yeah I'm goofy), then apply....then I just get dressed and go...

    Noticed the fat burner takes like 30 min to start burning? I also assume that even when it's not burning, it's still working no?
    I just know its common for people to assume to apply before cardio or training to instantly liberate fat to be burned.

    Problem is -- it wont fully penetrate the epidermis and simply come off onto clothing. So I always have people apply after morning cardio shower.

    Then AFTER evening weight training shower.

    -Matt
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  3. Original Eviscerate is just so personally brutal for me....I am a tough guy, but it destroys my concentration, mental acuity , calmness you name it...

    Hey -- it is so excruciating that I know its indirectly burning more calories simply from making you a basket-case

    -Matt

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Original Eviscerate is just so personally brutal for me....I am a tough guy, but it destroys my concentration, mental acuity , calmness you name it...

    Hey -- it is so excruciating that I know its indirectly burning more calories simply from making you a basket-case

    -Matt
    Same bro, I can tolerate alot, but og just never gets better!
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  5. Yeah I'm too wimpy for the OG as well.

  6. Do they not make OG anymore!
    Lets Say you do everything that you are supposed to do. You check all the boxes. You Believe, you prepare, you work, you fight, and you know your why, and Life still catches you on your blindside..... Just remember Failure Is Never Final !!!!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by HokiePride View Post
    Do they not make OG anymore!
    jeez.. you actually want that stuff!

    Mike
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by HokiePride View Post
    Do they not make OG anymore!
    OG is at Nutraplanet right now. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/e...te-180-ml.html

    You'd be surprised guys, Matt has a ton of people who want OG and some who have asked for even stronger.

    Lots of sickos out there
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    OG is at Nutraplanet right now. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/e...te-180-ml.html

    You'd be surprised guys, Matt has a ton of people who want OG and some who have asked for even stronger.

    Lots of sickos out there
    I'll stick with my 5 bottles of smolder for this prep, thank you
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    I'll stick with my 5 bottles of smolder for this prep, thank you
    Preaching to the choir man, I'm actually most excited for burn free!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Preaching to the choir man, I'm actually most excited for burn free!
    im not that much of a bitch
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  12. I have never used a topical fat burner but i am thinking about it. My problem is when i diet strict and or tae a good fat burner i tend to lose the fat everywhere else but my abs. Thinking of trying the smolder. Is this good to start with..SJ

  13. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    I have never used a topical fat burner but i am thinking about it. My problem is when i diet strict and or tae a good fat burner i tend to lose the fat everywhere else but my abs. Thinking of trying the smolder. Is this good to start with..SJ
    Higher BF levels we tend to suggest Abliderate Advanced, lower ones we tend to suggest Eviscerate series. Both will be effective at any level however, it's just a cost-benefit thing. If you really want to go nuts on it, run both at the same time (Abliderate followed by Eviscerate Smolder.) I do this often and love the results.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Higher BF levels we tend to suggest Abliderate Advanced, lower ones we tend to suggest Eviscerate series. Both will be effective at any level however, it's just a cost-benefit thing. If you really want to go nuts on it, run both at the same time (Abliderate followed by Eviscerate Smolder.) I do this often and love the results.
    Yah i am def higher bodyfat, not crazy but higher. Ok i will try that one first. Thank you..sj

  15. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Yah i am def higher bodyfat, not crazy but higher. Ok i will try that one first. Thank you..sj
    Let us know how it goes. AA is one of our most consistently well reviewed products.
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  16. I've got a bottle of Abliderate advanced on the way right now and I'm very excited to try it out. I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do for some loose belly skin and a little lovehandle fat.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Nis1 View Post
    I've got a bottle of Abliderate advanced on the way right now and I'm very excited to try it out. I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do for some loose belly skin and a little lovehandle fat.
    Awesome. We are always interested in feedback.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Nis1 View Post
    I've got a bottle of Abliderate advanced on the way right now and I'm very excited to try it out. I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do for some loose belly skin and a little lovehandle fat.

    Can't wait to see what you think. I love AA.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post

    Awesome. We are always interested in feedback.
    I'm thinking on doing a log on it with some before and after pics and what not.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Nis1 View Post
    I'm thinking on doing a log on it with some before and after pics and what not.
    Definitely PM me a link if you do it.
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  21. When should you take AA? I am really close to pulling the trigger on a bottle, but I work all day in an office environment then at 5 pm I hit the gym. If I apply it in the morning after my shower would it still be effective? Or do I have to apply it before my workout?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Higher BF levels we tend to suggest Abliderate Advanced, lower ones we tend to suggest Eviscerate series. Both will be effective at any level however, it's just a cost-benefit thing. If you really want to go nuts on it, run both at the same time (Abliderate followed by Eviscerate Smolder.) I do this often and love the results.
    What do you consider higher and lower BF levels?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by blurryimage View Post
    When should you take AA? I am really close to pulling the trigger on a bottle, but I work all day in an office environment then at 5 pm I hit the gym. If I apply it in the morning after my shower would it still be effective? Or do I have to apply it before my workout?
    Morning after the shower is actually the best time to apply it. Not right before the workout. Your work experience/gym and mine are the exact same. You're good to go.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post

    Morning after the shower is actually the best time to apply it. Not right before the workout. Your work experience/gym and mine are the exact same. You're good to go.
    Sweet! I am buying some today!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by GETBIGG View Post
    What do you consider higher and lower BF levels?
    Ok, let's clear some of this up:

    Abliderate Advanced will work at high and low BF levels, but is going to mostly target VAT and help control cortisol. It can be used at any bodyfat, but from a cost-benefit standpoint it's probably best for those with VAT problems or those looking to control cortisol. It should only be used around the core area.

    Eviscerate series will work at high and low BF levels, but is mostly going to target SAT and reduce "stubborn" fat problem. From a cost-benefit standpoint it's probably best for those at lower BF levels (sub 12%). That isn't to say it won't do ANYTHING if you're higher, probably more that it's not really designed to do something at high BF's that will leave you really pleased. Eviscerate CAN be used on the chest, even as a pre-workout on targeted muscles, and even on the legs (be very careful where you get it on you at though).

    The products CAN be combined. The best way to do that is to use after showering (preferably with exfoliating soap like Java Lather, but this is not a necessity for use).

    1. Shower.
    2. Dry off.
    3. Apply Abliderate Advanced.
    4. Allow to "dry" (I usually brush my teeth now)
    5. Apply Eviscerate series (Smolder or OG).

    Matt has said Eviscerate OVER AA (AA then eviscerate application) works way better than the other way around. Something about the carrier.

    I've used them solo or together. Together is the most effective way, but isn't something that everyone wants to do and that is quite understandable.

    AA can be quite effective though even on lower bodyfats. One good example of that is Mr. Cooper. He really enjoyed it and he wasn't at a high BF%.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Matt has said AA over Eviscerate works way better than the other way around. Something about the carrier.

    You mean, eviscerate overtop AA? So you don't have to wait the 30 mins between?
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  27. Ok I want to make sure I am buying the right one.


    I have SAT fat. The kind you pinch so I need EV and not AA. AA would be for for people that have fat under the muscle.

  28. I still use the good old AVANT labs Napalm

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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Let us know how it goes. AA is one of our most consistently well reviewed products.
    Def. I am going to run a stack of xfactor and the AA. I might log same as well with before and after ab pix..sj

  30. Ablitaerate followed up with Smolder, Check!
    Lets Say you do everything that you are supposed to do. You check all the boxes. You Believe, you prepare, you work, you fight, and you know your why, and Life still catches you on your blindside..... Just remember Failure Is Never Final !!!!
  

  
 

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