ECA+LISS or OEP+AT2+HIIT?
- 02-15-2013, 10:31 PM
- 02-15-2013, 10:49 PM
02-15-2013, 10:58 PM
A.) If I did that, it'd be, what? OEP+AT2, 5:00a.m. pre-fasted cardio, followed by ECA at 9:00a.m. and 2:00p.m.?
B.) If the budget allows EITHER ECA or OEP/AT2, which is more beneficial?
02-15-2013, 11:13 PM
Buuuuuuut, if you're sticking with 1 a day dosing pre-cardio, HIIT + OEP/AT2 is probably superior. If you can do 2-3 doses a day, I'd prefer EC.
02-15-2013, 11:23 PM
02-16-2013, 12:42 AM
Eh, Alphamine gets rave reviews, but I already love EC and I already love the Get Up & Go Stack. I'd rather not experiment with new things. Bulking added some fat around the midsection and now it's time for something tried and true to get ready for Summer. I normally take either ECA three times per day or GU&G two times per day... the only thing is, one allows for HIIT and the other does not... I could, in theory buy both and do GU&G first thing, followed by two doses of ECA... eh. I'm splitting hairs, here. I'm sure I'll decide on one or the other before March first.
02-16-2013, 12:52 AM
02-16-2013, 01:12 AM
02-16-2013, 01:23 AM
If it's pre-cardio and fasted, I'd probably opt for yohimbine and caffeine over ephedrine and caffeine as circulating catecholamines will already be high. The best way to use EC for lipolysis (not appetite suppression) IMO is continuously (2-3 times daily) for 8-12 weeks.
02-16-2013, 06:17 PM
02-16-2013, 10:57 PM
damn..all this overthinking things, looking for the magical equation
ec (2) x O (2) = TLE ??
what happened to the days of simple diet correction, and hard work?
you didn't gain that midsection by a pill, so why you need multiple pills to lose it?
02-22-2013, 01:37 PM
02-22-2013, 01:51 PM
I know EC has a shortish half-life, but I still feel it to some extent several hours afterwards, ie 7pm when I consumed a dose at 11.00am, so I am still reluctant to do any type of HIIT at any time of day when on EC.
02-22-2013, 01:54 PM
02-22-2013, 01:59 PM
02-22-2013, 02:06 PM
i mean - would i be in the supplement business or spend time here offering guidance/feedback, if i didn't believe in the value of supplementation? simply a matter of making things so complicated, and adding in soo many things..without first seeming to get the REAL variables in order, ie:
diet & training/total energy expenditure
02-23-2013, 07:33 AM
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