Insulin sensivity: What supps to improve it?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Recompadrol > Glycobol > AP
    fixed
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.


  2. This is not cheap, but I had good results with 200mg Na-Rala, 2.5g Agmatine, and 4 cap PES AnaBeta taken daily. I would take all three at the same time about 30 minutes before breakfast and 30 minutes before dinner like this:

    AM: 100mg Na-Rala, 1.5g Agmatine, 2 caps PES AnaBeta
    PM: 100mg Na-Rala, 1.0g Agmatine, 2 Caps PES AnaBeta
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by hsk View Post
    This is not cheap, but I had good results with 200mg Na-Rala, 2.5g Agmatine, and 4 cap PES AnaBeta taken daily. I would take all three at the same time about 30 minutes before breakfast and 30 minutes before dinner like this:

    AM: 100mg Na-Rala, 1.5g Agmatine, 2 caps PES AnaBeta
    PM: 100mg Na-Rala, 1.0g Agmatine, 2 Caps PES AnaBeta
    No need for that much agmatine. And up the Na-R-Ala to 300mg and agmatine to about 500-750mg. But nice addition with the Anabeta
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  4. From my experience the best times or agmatine are post work out and intra workout

  5. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    No need for that much agmatine. And up the Na-R-Ala to 300mg and agmatine to about 500-750mg. But nice addition with the Anabeta
    Actually, my intended purpose for the agmatine was not for GDA or NO/pump purposes, but rather for pain management. I needed 2-2.5g daily in order to achieve the benefit I was looking for. I found out about the GDA benefits later on which was like a bonus for me...lol!

    But you're absolutely right that Agmatine pairs very nicely with Anabeta! =) When I was on this combo, I never bloated from any kind of carbs and I was tearing through food left and right and stayed extremely lean. Even when throwing in an extra cheat here and there it was like it never happened.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    Thats great info coop. Do you believe the negatives outweigh the benefits in regards to cla
    When you factor in the price of effective daily doses for months, I believe so

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    When you factor in the price of effective daily doses for months, I believe so
    I don't know why people believe in CLA anymore. It's not worth it in my opinion. So many better proven options out there supplement wise.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post

    I don't know why people believe in CLA anymore. It's not worth it in my opinion. So many better proven options out there supplement wise.
    I never did like or believe in CLA. Ran it once a long time ago and didn't notice anything.

    Much better options out there for sure.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by hsk View Post
    This is not cheap, but I had good results with 200mg Na-Rala, 2.5g Agmatine, and 4 cap PES AnaBeta taken daily. I would take all three at the same time about 30 minutes before breakfast and 30 minutes before dinner like this:

    AM: 100mg Na-Rala, 1.5g Agmatine, 2 caps PES AnaBeta
    PM: 100mg Na-Rala, 1.0g Agmatine, 2 Caps PES AnaBeta
    Add ALCAR in the morning and get the Na-RALA through SSv2 and that would be one of my favorite combos.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post

    Add ALCAR in the morning and get the Na-RALA through SSv2 and that would be one of my favorite combos.
    That'd be a nice combo right there. I plan on doing agmatine/ACLAR/Na-RALA soon. May add Yellow Gold also.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    That'd be a nice combo right there. I plan on doing agmatine/ACLAR/Na-RALA soon. May add Yellow Gold also.
    you dont hear much yellow gold talk anymore
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    you dont hear much yellow gold talk anymorw
    Ya I don't ever hear anything about it
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Ya I don't ever hear anything about it
    Too lazy to cap that crap and no one in their right mind would use it without capping. Stuff is like death.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post

    Too lazy to cap that crap and no one in their right mind would use it without capping. Stuff is like death.
    Ya ill agree with that haha. Only reason why it would hold me back from purchasing. If I do, I will just parachute it
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  15. look into Dat's CPWO protocol.

    I've been using this for awhile and have definitely noticed its effects.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    CLA actually rapes insulin sensitivity and causes insulin resistance in most forms that are sold as dietary supplements.

    Na-R-ALA, banaba, 4-oh-isl, and agmatine are all good options.
    thats not conclusive

    Abstract

    BACKGROUND:

    Preliminary evidence in obese diabetic rats suggests that conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) may have antidiabetic properties, based on reductions in fasting glucose and insulin concentrations. However, in lean rats, CLA causes hyperinsulinemia. Furthermore, experiments in humans also suggest that CLA may worsen insulin sensitivity.
    OBJECTIVES:

    The present study examined whether CLA supplementation can improve insulin sensitivity in humans.
    DESIGN:

    : Sixteen young sedentary individuals (age, 21.5 +/- 0.4 yr (mean +/- SEM); body mass, 77.6 +/- 3.4 kg) participated in this study. Ten subjects received 4 g x d of mixed CLA isomers (35.5%cis-9, trans-11; 36.8%trans-10, cis-12) for 8 wk, whereas six subjects received placebo (safflower oil). Oral glucose tolerance tests were performed at baseline (0), 4 and 8 wk of supplementation.
    RESULTS:

    : After 8 wk of CLA supplementation, insulin sensitivity index (ISI) increased (14.4 +/- 1.0, 8 wk vs 11.3 +/- 1.3, 0 wk; P < 0.05), which corresponded to a decrease in fasting insulin concentrations. Six of the 10 subjects showed large increases in their ISI (range, +27 to 90%), whereas two demonstrated essential no change (+3 to 5%), and two had a decrease in insulin sensitivity (-12 to -13%). ISI was unchanged over 8 wk in the placebo group.
    CONCLUSIONS:

    Our results indicate that a common dosage of a commercially available CLA supplement can improve ISI in young, sedentary individuals. However, there is considerable individual variability in the response. Additional studies are required to identify underlying metabolic changes in human skeletal muscle.



    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15126715
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    Believe me, I've looked at every CLA study under the sun. The isomer composition and dose are key. Look for the trends between the insulin-sensitivity data vs the insulin-resistance data and you'll see why. You'll also see why the vast majority of CLA products don't work.

  18. Any suggestions on what to stack with a GDA (going with Recompadrol). Want to try something different than my usual DAA/Erase stack. Maybe a GH product...Currently looking at Lecheek Mass HGH, Blue Growth, Somnidren, and HGHup. What seems to be everybody's fav? Interesting info about CLA, Coop. Glad I heard it here, because I'm already planning a summer cut stack and can now make CLA a scratch.

  19. Mass hgh

    Agmatine

    Forskolin

    Curcumin

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rockme View Post
    Any suggestions on what to stack with a GDA (going with Recompadrol). Want to try something different than my usual DAA/Erase stack. Maybe a GH product...Currently looking at Lecheek Mass HGH, Blue Growth, Somnidren, and HGHup. What seems to be everybody's fav? Interesting info about CLA, Coop. Glad I heard it here, because I'm already planning a summer cut stack and can now make CLA a scratch.
    SNS or SS Agmatine
    SNS Bulbine
    PES AnaBeta
    BPS Endosurge

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Believe me, I've looked at every CLA study under the sun. The isomer composition and dose are key. Look for the trends between the insulin-sensitivity data vs the insulin-resistance data and you'll see why. You'll also see why the vast majority of CLA products don't work.
    They work on me, I get really bad hives and breakout in allergies
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    They work on me, I get really bad hives and breakout in allergies
    You're not alone on the hives

  23. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleIQ View Post
    Why do you want to increase insullin sensitivity? Do you have normal or unstable/high blood sugar levels?
    ....in hopes that he builds more muscle and looses more fat
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleIQ View Post
    Why do you want to increase insullin sensitivity? Do you have normal or unstable/high blood sugar levels?
    General health. Feedback mechanisms (insulin is the dominant inhibitor of HSL for lipolysis. Less insulin should theoretically increase lipolysis). Conversely, insulin also blunts appetite, so anything that acts as a GDA intrinsically increases appetite.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleIQ View Post
    Why do you want to increase insullin sensitivity? Do you have normal or unstable/high blood sugar levels?
    I believe that I have to improve it because I tend to accumulate subcutaneous fat in my belly (normally a sign of insulin insensivity)
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