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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i believe we're working on a non hormonal line coming up...possibly may have some similar things in the line up
    wouldnt surprise me at all since you copy everything else from them then use fake accounts to promote them on many forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKoolWhip View Post
    wouldnt surprise me at all since you copy everything else from them then use fake accounts to promote them on many forums.
    i'm young gotti on every forum i'm on, i have no reason or time to go make fake accounts, also dont' rep for AF except for this forum...thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i'm young gotti on every forum i'm on, i have no reason or time to go make fake accounts, also dont' rep for AF except for this forum...thank you
    not talking about you. other people that af has admitted to have done it on other forums and now on this thread. "supporters" for af
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKoolWhip View Post
    not talking about you. other people that af has admitted to have done it on other forums and now on this thread. "supporters" for af

    i can only be responsible for myself but i can say i've never been approached or asked to do that by fl3x or anyone at AF since i joined the company
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    Guys let's try to keep this thread on track please. Topic states product comparisons, pros and cons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    i believe we're working on a non hormonal line coming up...possibly may have some similar things in the line up
    This would be nice
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    this is just my personal opinion, but after seeing logs on AF products and running PP V3 series myself, if i choose to take a PH, im just going to use something like low dose PH that isnt very toxic and only 4 weeks. with these products (both AF and PP), you need to run at 8 weeks. i know some people "see" great gains within 4 weeks, but i have many dedicated friends who have used AF and PP products both before and 8 weeks is a must. They also seem to be hit or miss with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    i believe we're working on a non hormonal line coming up...possibly may have some similar things in the line up
    Speaking of this....I could be wrong but I think another company is considering replicating Topical Sustain Alpha. If not ill brew my own. Loved the stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Speaking of this....I could be wrong but I think another company is considering replicating Topical Sustain Alpha. If not ill brew my own. Loved the stuff.
    do you know what company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    do you know what company?
    I'm just suspecting. I could be wrong so I will stay quiet. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    I'm just suspecting. I could be wrong so I will stay quiet. Lol.
    hahahaha i gotcha. would be nice to have sustain back on the market in some fashion. Loved Sustain + IGF 2 + DAA. talk about libido
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    i mean, not even for the andro stuff. Toco 8 was the shizzz along with sustain alpha.
    Androfactory includes toco in every one of their products. It's good stuff.

    http://www.androfactoryblog.com/toco...-the-hairline/

    http://www.androfactoryblog.com/hair...oco-supra-bio/

    I myself have seen better results from Omega T-Force in terms of libido.

    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    this is just my personal opinion, but after seeing logs on AF products and running PP V3 series myself, if i choose to take a PH, im just going to use something like low dose PH that isnt very toxic and only 4 weeks. with these products (both AF and PP), you need to run at 8 weeks. i know some people "see" great gains within 4 weeks, but i have many dedicated friends who have used AF and PP products both before and 8 weeks is a must. They also seem to be hit or miss with people.
    Are any of them members here?

    I'd love to see some logs or at least some reviews here.
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    Wasn't point any fingers, but I do suggest if it is a random person trying to undermine you guys, simply ask an admin for the posters IP address so they can find their other identities that they might use more, then send them a polite PM to ask them to stop.

    Anyway, back on topic, whats in the pipeline for non-hormonals? This has got my interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Wasn't point any fingers, but I do suggest if it is a random person trying to undermine you guys, simply ask an admin for the posters IP address so they can find their other identities that they might use more, then send them a polite PM to ask them to stop.

    Anyway, back on topic, whats in the pipeline for non-hormonals? This has got my interest.
    Non-hormonals have my interest too and I recently inquired with the boss but no time frame due to the push on the newer hormonals....but as I mentioned above...a Topical Sustain Alpha replacement, whether it be from androfactory or somebody else would certainly be in someone's best interest!!
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    I don't think we will be going the transdermal route but there should be some more talk about natural products one we can get Muscle Up out.
    Oh the excitement!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Androfactory includes toco in every one of their products. It's good stuff.

    http://www.androfactoryblog.com/toco...-the-hairline/

    http://www.androfactoryblog.com/hair...oco-supra-bio/

    I myself have seen better results from Omega T-Force in terms of libido.

    Are any of them members here?

    I'd love to see some logs or at least some reviews here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Androfactory includes toco in every one of their products. It's good stuff.

    http://www.androfactoryblog.com/toco...-the-hairline/

    http://www.androfactoryblog.com/hair...oco-supra-bio/

    I myself have seen better results from Omega T-Force in terms of libido.


    Are any of them members here?

    I'd love to see some logs or at least some reviews here.
    other than @TexasLifter89 , none of my friends post on any forum. But I have seen there progress/results myself.

    and IMO, a log with PH type products really doesnt mean that much. even with before/after pictures, we have no clue what else they are using.
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    also, i really enjoy taking toco 8 six months out of the year or so. loved it when it was available as a solo product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I Gainesd twenty two pounds on andromass at eight weeks
    yeah IMO 8 weeks is a must with any andro product. what version did you use?
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    It just seems expensive. You see companies moving millions of PHS because its affordable. All i see happening, is more game players joining this market which is better for consumers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I don't think we will be going the transdermal route but there should be some more talk about natural products one we can get Muscle Up out.
    Oh the excitement!!!
    Y'all need to focus on selling a full 30 days supply and get the price down to something realistic; I don't buy the BS about how esterfied DHEA isomers are so expensive when their equivalents can be had for so little on their own. I tried the PP V3 stuff, it was marginal at best and a low dose of masteron made AndroHard seem like a placebo. Many look at this as an alternative to real gear but I see it as a lot of money for minimal results. Sorry, someone has to call it like its seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post

    Y'all need to focus on selling a full 30 days supply and get the price down to something realistic; I don't buy the BS about how esterfied DHEA isomers are so expensive when their equivalents can be had for so little on their own. I tried the PP V3 stuff, it was marginal at best and a low dose of masteron made AndroHard seem like a placebo. Many look at this as an alternative to real gear but I see it as a lot of money for minimal results. Sorry, someone has to call it like its seen.
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    I will make zero dollars profit wether you try it or not.

    I agree the price seems steep but converting things like 11-oxo to 11-kt costs a bit, ad well as lab testing.

    Once these products have a solid year in and manufacturing costs decrease I can see the price dropping but until then, those who wish to stay safe and legal are more than willing to buy at the current price.
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    Hey...Who is better PP or AF ?


    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Y'all need to focus on selling a full 30 days supply and get the price down to something realistic; I don't buy the BS about how esterfied DHEA isomers are so expensive when their equivalents can be had for so little on their own. I tried the PP V3 stuff, it was marginal at best and a low dose of masteron made AndroHard seem like a placebo. Many look at this as an alternative to real gear but I see it as a lot of money for minimal results. Sorry, someone has to call it like its seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Anthony View Post
    Hey...Who is better PP or AF ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Y'all need to focus on selling a full 30 days supply and get the price down to something realistic; I don't buy the BS about how esterfied DHEA isomers are so expensive when their equivalents can be had for so little on their own. I tried the PP V3 stuff, it was marginal at best and a low dose of masteron made AndroHard seem like a placebo. Many look at this as an alternative to real gear but I see it as a lot of money for minimal results. Sorry, someone has to call it like its seen.
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    Responding to your pricing opinion. No one carries this product but AF and there is only one place that produced a similar item and that was Primordial Performances AndroDrive which people loved and ANDRO FACTORY has provided the product for considerably less and put 3 soft gels worth in 1 Liquid cap . So i'm not sure what it is your giving an opinion about??

    Oh wait.. You haven't tried it and your slamming something? It hasn't been released yet so you couldn't have tried it....

    -just saying.

    Don't want this thread to steer in the direction of unwarranted attacks on a line that has done nothing shy of making it stronger, easier to dose and less expensive..

    Did we mention there is a one time introduction sale going on right now to get the product out there for people to try and get some actually opinions on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    i mean, not even for the andro stuff. Toco 8 was the shizzz along with sustain alpha.
    If you miss toco 8,
    The company that supplied the vitamin e tocotrienol complex that was used in all the sited studies is "Carotech Tocomin supra bio"
    You can still get it in Swansons tocotrienol supplement, and Jarrow's "toco-sorb"
    I am not a rep for either company, I just loved toco 8, and did a little research when Primordial Performance closed shop.
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    If you miss toco 8,
    The company that supplied the vitamin e tocotrienol complex that was used in all the sited studies is "Carotech Tocomin supra bio"
    You can still get it in Swansons tocotrienol supplement, and Jarrow's "toco-sorb"
    I am not a rep for either company, I just loved toco 8, and did a little research when Primordial Performance closed shop.
    Good to know you loved it ANDRO FACTORY'S PCT called CP+R Cycle Protection and Recovery will have the appropriate dose "from their Clinical Studies" To provide you with everything you loved about it. Hair regrowth, prostate health, everything really; the product TocoSupra Bio 20% which is what we use in the CP+R found in all of our products is truly a miracle supplement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allday54 View Post
    Since the takedown of PP I've been looking for other alternatives that are similar or the same as the andro series. I came across Androfactory's bulk-up. Is this a legit company? And is this product as safe as PP products??
    Yes and "as safe".....Well that is a funny way to say it. PP was shut down and the manufacturing facility was deemed non GMP compliant.ANDRO FACTORY uses a multi billion dollar manufacturing facility.. So I would say safer. Check it outhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/andro-factory/219209-meet-andro-factorys.html-AF
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    bulk-up = clone of andromass v3 with slightly lower doses and only 3 weeks per pack instead of PP's 4
    and half the price...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Pp had some good stuff. If androfactory offered a product that was cheaper yet Still effective I would be a repeat customer. The problem is the price.
    Effective absolutely. Actually improved since the last version. Now with 1 Liquid cap instead of 3 softgels. What about the price?Would love to see you try the new line.There is a huge sale right now to. Type in PRESALES99 at check out and get 30% off.ANDRO FACTORY Primordial PerformanceFOCUS 79.95 AndroDrive 79.00LEAN-CUT 89.50 AndroLean 129.00 BULK-UP 139.50 AndroMass 199.00MASS-BULK 159.95 AndroBulk 219.00Thanks-AF
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddgranit View Post
    If you miss toco 8,
    The company that supplied the vitamin e tocotrienol complex that was used in all the sited studies is "Carotech Tocomin supra bio"
    You can still get it in Swansons tocotrienol supplement, and Jarrow's "toco-sorb"
    I am not a rep for either company, I just loved toco 8, and did a little research when Primordial Performance closed shop.
    dude thanks!!!!

    anyways, even if PP was around still, i wouldnt be using any of their androseries prohormones. too much $ for little results. sure i may have gained 10 pounds but it took 8 weeks. i am just going to stick to low dose of other stuff if i ever decide to go that route
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
    and half the price...
    im not here to argue at all, but when you do the math of price per serving, it isnt half the price. (with both rep coupons)

    edit: AF offers great deals just like PP used to offer, but in the end, its still alot of money to dish out. AF cant help the price really though. Raws are expensive for them as with PP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post

    and half the price...
    no. its about 30% less and 25% less servings. not to argue either but thats the fact. theyre almost exactly the same
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    Thanks bud!!!

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    Comparable to Andro lean.

    As for the prices, they do seem a bit steep at first but when you look at safety, effectiveness etc, and compared to other DHEA products with similar delivery systems, factor in effective dosage, you find out the prices stay pretty competitive.
    On top of that, Androfactory has some nice sales, the reps have discount codes, and you can get in on the rewards program on our site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    yeah IMO 8 weeks is a must with any andro product. what version did you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
    Effective absolutely. Actually improved since the last version. Now with 1 Liquid cap instead of 3 softgels. What about the price?Would love to see you try the new line.There is a huge sale right now to. Type in PRESALES99 at check out and get 30% off.ANDRO FACTORY Primordial PerformanceFOCUS 79.95 AndroDrive 79.00LEAN-CUT 89.50 AndroLean 129.00 BULK-UP 139.50 AndroMass 199.00MASS-BULK 159.95 AndroBulk 219.00Thanks-AF
    I can't swing it man too pricey. My andromasses were traded for so That's the only reason I took it...otherwise I would Have never purchased. I like the innovation I just can't afford that stuff right now in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
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    Responding to your pricing opinion. No one carries this product but AF and there is only one place that produced a similar item and that was Primordial Performances AndroDrive which people loved and ANDRO FACTORY has provided the product for considerably less and put 3 soft gels worth in 1 Liquid cap . So i'm not sure what it is your giving an opinion about??

    Oh wait.. You haven't tried it and your slamming something? It hasn't been released yet so you couldn't have tried it....

    -just saying.

    Don't want this thread to steer in the direction of unwarranted attacks on a line that has done nothing shy of making it stronger, easier to dose and less expensive..

    Did we mention there is a one time introduction sale going on right now to get the product out there for people to try and get some actually opinions on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
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    mass v2 was the best for gains. so many people gained between 12-20 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Tried AndroDrive too, at various doses no less, it was not impressive. Good to hear you concentrated it though, need to do something as such to justify the cost.
    dude! i hated androdrive as well. many people liked it but i didnt see anything from it.
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