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  1. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

    Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

    I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
    They are different ingredients. They both control cortisol but Erase has its own anti-estrogenic properties. The ingredient in Erase is 7-oxo which is a precursor of 7-oh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    They are different ingredients. They both control cortisol but Erase has its own anti-estrogenic properties. The ingredient in Erase is 7-oxo which is a precursor of 7-oh.
    Oh ok, thanks for that!

    So, stacking them together may even increase the effects of cortisol control?

    Just thinking sore joints may be a issue.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Oh ok, thanks for that!

    So, stacking them together may even increase the effects of cortisol control?

    Just thinking sore joints may be a issue.
    By stacking both, yes cortisol levels would be controlled plenty.

    Only way you would get sore joints is from Erase/ Erase Pro because of how it dries you out by having diuretic activity. If so just up your fish oil dosage along with running Cissus. Personally though I have never had sore joints from Erase or Erase Pro.
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    So would it be preferred to maybe use OG anabeta with a stack?

    Anabeta elite is at a good price atm! Might grab a few bottles anyways, I have no problem with appetite

  5. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    So would it be preferred to maybe use OG anabeta with a stack?

    Anabeta elite is at a good price atm! Might grab a few bottles anyways, I have no problem with appetite
    What is your goal?

    OG Anabeta I like using for a bulk. ABE for a cut/recomp because of the added forskolin. Both are great for strength and lean mass gains.

    The current price for ABE is excellent and hard to pass up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    What is your goal?

    OG Anabeta I like using for a bulk. ABE for a cut/recomp because of the added forskolin. Both are great for strength and lean mass gains.

    The current price for ABE is excellent and hard to pass up.
    Lean up for sure!

    It's the same price as OG so I got to get a few bottles while I can

  7. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Lean up for sure!

    It's the same price as OG so I got to get a few bottles while I can
    I would go ABE then. Should lean up very nicely with the right diet and workout plan. I noticed it was the same price as OG Anabeta which is out of stock. 8 weeks of ABE is highly recommended.
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  8. Food for thought: if you're worried about overdoing cortisol, 1 bottle SS forskolin + 1 bottle Anabeta = Anabeta Elite without cortisol control
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Food for thought: if you're worried about overdoing cortisol, 1 bottle SS forskolin + 1 bottle Anabeta = Anabeta Elite without cortisol control
    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack

  10. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
    Great stack
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
    I'm pumped for you to do that stack
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    I'm pumped for you to do that stack
    As am I. Can't wait for 4/1 myself. LOL overkill? Nah...

    OG Anabeta
    OG Erase
    Paragon
    Inhibit-P
    Reduce-XT

    And the usual cast of stuff Alphamine, Enhanced, Bodyforge 2.0, NeuroSurge and some other stuff...........

  13. Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post

    As am I. Can't wait for 4/1 myself. LOL overkill? Nah...

    OG Anabeta
    OG Erase
    Paragon
    Inhibit-P
    Reduce-XT

    And the usual cast of stuff Alphamine, Enhanced, Bodyforge 2.0, NeuroSurge and some other stuff...........
    Nice!!! Got everything covered in that stack. Definitely not overkill. Go big or go home
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  14. AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

    Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

    Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right?
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

    Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

    Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right?
    LOL same here.

    I supplement my 4 weeks off from Anabeta Elite with OG Anabeta + Forskolin-95. Is this allowed?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

    Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

    Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right?
    Wait we are supposed to cycle off of the two? Oops...
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
    I'm excited for you that sounds like my kind of stack. I'm very interested in the new Endosurge Turbo.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post

    I'm excited for you that sounds like my kind of stack. I'm very interested in the new Endosurge Turbo.
    I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though!
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though!
    This might sound crazy but I preferred the original. 20:1 maca is good stuff though

  20. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though!
    OG Endosurge is a great addition to any natty stack. The turbo version kicks it up a notch.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    This might sound crazy but I preferred the original. 20:1 maca is good stuff though
    When you say it it never sounds crazy. Just sounds super smart...
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This might sound crazy but I preferred the original. 20:1 maca is good stuff though
    Yeah I am suspecting this

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    This might sound crazy but I preferred the original. 20:1 maca is good stuff though
    Curious as to your rational behind this. I assume the change in the L-dopa extracts?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post
    Curious as to your rational behind this. I assume the change in the L-dopa extracts?
    Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

    Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

    Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
    This gUy has some book smarts

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post

    This gUy has some book smarts
    He's so damn good looking as well... Wait, what?
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    He's so damn good looking as well... Wait, what?
    I laughed hard at that!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post

    I laughed hard at that!
    So glad I could amuse you!
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

    Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
    I do really like the 20:1 Maca in the new version. It boost my libido very nicely. So it is a hard choice which way to go. I think both are good products with different uses.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

    Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
    What about the sleep effects?

    The original knocked me out
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