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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    GDA's stack with these would be a good or bad thing? Just thinking.

    Glycobol, slinshot, ssv2? Or am I missing PES version?
    Gda's stack well with these products. For me a gda is pretty much a staple though. Out of those mentioned I really enjoyed SlinShot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    Gda's stack well with these products. For me a gda is pretty much a staple though. Out of those mentioned I really enjoyed SlinShot.
    I've never used that one... Hear some good stuff about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post

    I've never used that one... Hear some good stuff about it.
    It's a personal favorite for me. PES doesn't have one quite yet but the idea has been brought up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post

    Jelly. Trying to take atleast a month off any stims it's been rough so far.
    That's what I try to do but I slowly taper down so that I don't get the headache and am not just unbearably lethargic. Training isn't what suffers for me without stims but the rest of my busy days ten to be harder on me.
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    How would a partitioner work with these? Slinshot,ssv2, glycobol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    How would a partitioner work with these? Slinshot,ssv2, glycobol?
    Thought we discussed this a few days ago? Lol



    Gda's stack well with just about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    Thought we discussed this a few days ago? Lol



    Gda's stack well with just about anything.
    Umm yeah I am stupid, I get on an forget what I ask. I ask way to much. I need to read more.

    Sorry
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    Cortisol spray being used in combination with erase pro...overkill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post

    Umm yeah I am stupid, I get on an forget what I ask. I ask way to much. I need to read more.

    Sorry
    No worries, just messing with you anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    Cortisol spray being used in combination with erase pro...overkill?
    I mean it depends on the amount of stress you are under and your cortisol levels. You need some cortisol in your body so I would save the spray for later or save the money now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    What would be the dosing for usin with/after a PH?

    Probably start usin the last week of PH? Or the last day of PH start at night with ABE and use erase pro in the morning with first meal 640am.. Use alphamine as PRE workout 430 am and t2 midday?

    I was looking online via web search for some other reviews/logs/threads to try and get the info on my own and..... First one sent me here hahaaha
    I'd throw them in day one of pct if you have one bottle of each.

    You could add GDAs to the cycle if you wish, but just watch it because Anabeta seems to have its own intrinsic glucose disposal mechanism among other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    Good suggestion here.

    One way I have effectively used ABE in a cut is by utilizing a nighttime dose with a light meal before bed. It's easy to fight hunger when you are sleeping! This also results in a ripped and lean feeling upon waking.
    Probably 1am/1midday/2dinner. before bed a protein shake(bottle says 4 times a day) shouldm it be taken with at least 25-50 carbs? That's why I thought maybe 2 at dinner because I don't plan on eating carbs right before bed.... Unless you feel the protein shake will suffice.

    Kevin mention GDA issues. So we will say that post workout 30min before said 50g carb meal. Anabeta 30min after that(1st dose, not sure how it will feel preworkout). Then (both)1pm, 6pm and if night time w shake.
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    I am still waiting to do a DAA/erase/endosurge stack.

    All these good reviews is making me think adding ABE would be a very good idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    I am still waiting to do a DAA/erase/endosurge stack.

    All these good reviews is making me think adding ABE would be a very good idea
    Adding ABE would be a great addition to the above stack. I just started ABE about 1.5 weeks ago and once again I see why it is my favorite supplement.
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    5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

    Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

    I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

    Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

    I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
    Apparently not because those are always stacked I'm starting a daa erase abe alphamine recomp stack tomorrow . But in for an answer to above
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    Apparently not because those are always stacked I'm starting a daa erase abe alphamine recomp stack tomorrow . But in for an answer to above
    Seems a little counter productive I suppose.

    Maybe Original anabeta would be better
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Seems a little counter productive I suppose.

    Maybe Original anabeta would be better
    ABE is used for recomps. Ill prolly end up saving my alphamine for a cut. I'm not a fan of huge stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

    Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

    I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
    They are different ingredients. They both control cortisol but Erase has its own anti-estrogenic properties. The ingredient in Erase is 7-oxo which is a precursor of 7-oh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    They are different ingredients. They both control cortisol but Erase has its own anti-estrogenic properties. The ingredient in Erase is 7-oxo which is a precursor of 7-oh.
    Oh ok, thanks for that!

    So, stacking them together may even increase the effects of cortisol control?

    Just thinking sore joints may be a issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Oh ok, thanks for that!

    So, stacking them together may even increase the effects of cortisol control?

    Just thinking sore joints may be a issue.
    By stacking both, yes cortisol levels would be controlled plenty.

    Only way you would get sore joints is from Erase/ Erase Pro because of how it dries you out by having diuretic activity. If so just up your fish oil dosage along with running Cissus. Personally though I have never had sore joints from Erase or Erase Pro.
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    So would it be preferred to maybe use OG anabeta with a stack?

    Anabeta elite is at a good price atm! Might grab a few bottles anyways, I have no problem with appetite
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    So would it be preferred to maybe use OG anabeta with a stack?

    Anabeta elite is at a good price atm! Might grab a few bottles anyways, I have no problem with appetite
    What is your goal?

    OG Anabeta I like using for a bulk. ABE for a cut/recomp because of the added forskolin. Both are great for strength and lean mass gains.

    The current price for ABE is excellent and hard to pass up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    What is your goal?

    OG Anabeta I like using for a bulk. ABE for a cut/recomp because of the added forskolin. Both are great for strength and lean mass gains.

    The current price for ABE is excellent and hard to pass up.
    Lean up for sure!

    It's the same price as OG so I got to get a few bottles while I can
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Lean up for sure!

    It's the same price as OG so I got to get a few bottles while I can
    I would go ABE then. Should lean up very nicely with the right diet and workout plan. I noticed it was the same price as OG Anabeta which is out of stock. 8 weeks of ABE is highly recommended.
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    Food for thought: if you're worried about overdoing cortisol, 1 bottle SS forskolin + 1 bottle Anabeta = Anabeta Elite without cortisol control
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Food for thought: if you're worried about overdoing cortisol, 1 bottle SS forskolin + 1 bottle Anabeta = Anabeta Elite without cortisol control
    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
    I'm pumped for you to do that stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    I'm pumped for you to do that stack
    As am I. Can't wait for 4/1 myself. LOL overkill? Nah...

    OG Anabeta
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    And the usual cast of stuff Alphamine, Enhanced, Bodyforge 2.0, NeuroSurge and some other stuff...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post

    As am I. Can't wait for 4/1 myself. LOL overkill? Nah...

    OG Anabeta
    OG Erase
    Paragon
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    Reduce-XT

    And the usual cast of stuff Alphamine, Enhanced, Bodyforge 2.0, NeuroSurge and some other stuff...........
    Nice!!! Got everything covered in that stack. Definitely not overkill. Go big or go home
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    AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

    Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

    Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

    Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

    Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right?
    LOL same here.

    I supplement my 4 weeks off from Anabeta Elite with OG Anabeta + Forskolin-95. Is this allowed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

    Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

    Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right?
    Wait we are supposed to cycle off of the two? Oops...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    True.

    The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

    I am pumped to do this stack!

    Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack
    I'm excited for you that sounds like my kind of stack. I'm very interested in the new Endosurge Turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post

    I'm excited for you that sounds like my kind of stack. I'm very interested in the new Endosurge Turbo.
    I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though!
    This might sound crazy but I preferred the original. 20:1 maca is good stuff though
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though!
    OG Endosurge is a great addition to any natty stack. The turbo version kicks it up a notch.
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