New user.. Just got Jack3d and OxyElitePro old formulas.. Advice?
- 02-09-2013, 08:11 PM
- 02-09-2013, 09:03 PM
- 02-09-2013, 10:26 PM
If your heart rate is high....or blood presure (or both) you should stop using jack3d imideatly -continue with OEP+At2 combo but no more jack3d ! OEP+Jack3d is way too much stims for a guy like you.Just save it for some other time.If your heart rate is always high this could be sinus tachycardia-it's not a big deal-simple explanation of it: mayoclinic.org/medical-edge-newspaper-2011/may-06b. html Just fill the gap-can't post direct links yet
Hows your blood presure?
02-11-2013, 05:51 AM
I barely feel the jack3d.. mostly a little tingling
I'm systolic 116 and diastolic 64 just checked earlier at the rite aid lol
That stack of OEP, AT2, and Erase looks good.. Did they change the formula for the erase though?
Some of the reviews on that say it kills your libido did you feel that side effect?
02-11-2013, 07:26 AM
02-11-2013, 08:54 AM
Might be prudent to get a echo, look at valves and ejection fraction. Your BP in and of itself is not bad and some feel great with diastolic in the upper 50s or lower 60s, but something about your situation seem amiss. Insurance will gnerally cover an echo a year for preventative for certain ages, but with your symptoms an echo is medically indicated. Do you have a history of a murmur? Dehydration can also cause lower BP and tachycardia, but you say your water intake is high.
02-11-2013, 05:52 PM
What's an echo?
No history of a murmur or any medical conditions at all..
I'm usually a tough guy lol
The day I checked my blood pressure I'm not sure if I drank a gallon it was my rest day..
Also something that I just remembered about the BPM test my friend gave me is that I think I was on the OEP+AT2 that day but no jack3d and it was about 3 hours after a work out.. relevant information?
The treadmill heartbeat sensor did go to 195 BPM though when on all 3.. sweat was like water being poured on me.
Since then I've stopped using the treadmill for cardio and use the cycle machine mostly now.. lower intensity..
02-11-2013, 09:44 PM
The heart rate is really high. I would get it checked out. Being tough may be a reason your not more symptomatic, plus people get used or do not notice symptoms as much that develop slowly overtime. Perhaps everything is cool and it is just supplements. Better to be safe than sorry when dealing with the heart though.
02-16-2013, 05:10 PM
So a few days ago I took the jack3d out of my stack altogether
You guys scared me. Had me working out paranoid feeling my chest every couple minutes! Lol
What's the next best thing to add to me stack? Don't think I want to do the erase because of the possible side effects..
USPlabs came out with a new supplement right? I think it was versa 1?
02-16-2013, 05:14 PM
i think you should learn diet and nutrition
(as already mentioned earlier)
stop with seeking alternative supps
fix the problem
on the other hand: i am glad to see you eliminated a very potent stim out of your already excessive mix
it is a start
(certainly not the solution however
as is obvious from your already wanting to replace it)
02-22-2013, 06:19 PM
But I already have been doing the correct nutrition/diet!
I have an aresnal of oats, vegetables, seafood, and lean meats..
5 small meals a day..
I'm at a steady 163 lbs..
I want a completely new stack(safe but good stack).. I have another bottle of the jack3d but if the new optimal stack won't utilize that then so be it I won't use it.. I want to still cut I guess.. Mostly looking for muscle definition.. I know abs come from the diet and lowering bf%..
Thanks for the help and for steering me in the right direction guys!
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