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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
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    Guys, I never said that chewing gum would deplete your digestive enzymes, you came up with that. What I said was that it can lead to a decline in enzymes. Now, the only reason for that is the topic of the thread and someone's comment suggesting to chew gum and live off of shakes... One study shows a %5 decline in enzymes after only 1 day of gum chewing. That's just one day, not living of shakes for months and chewing gum to aid digestion. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post

    The digestive enzymes produced by the pancreas are critical to proper digestion, especially for foods that contain protein. Through the stimulation of the vagus nerve, chewing can provoke the pancreas to release it’s digestive enzymes. As such, thorough chewing will likely lead to an increase in digestive enzyme production and result in more complete digestion.

    Unfortunately, chewing on gum can also stimulate the pancreas, but because there’s no food to digest, this results in a release of digestive enzymes that aren’t needed. If this happens on a regular basis, it could wear down the pancreas, result in a decline of digestive enzymes, and lead to chronically compromised digestion and health.
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    Guys, I never said that chewing gum would deplete your digestive enzymes, you came up with that.
    See bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw View Post
    i find it hard to believe that anyone would partake in an intellectual battle with mr cooper
    I disagree and question coop just for fun sometimes.

    Watch this.. arginine is an awesome ergogenic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I disagree and question coop just for fun sometimes.

    Watch this.. arginine is an awesome ergogenic!

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    See its fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post

    I disagree and question coop just for fun sometimes.

    Watch this.. arginine is an awesome ergogenic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    This made me lol.

    My wife is laying in bed looking at me funny right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw View Post

    you spelled kitchen wrong
    Wow. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I disagree and question coop just for fun sometimes.

    Watch this.. arginine is an awesome ergogenic!
    i question the veracity of your questioning



    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post
    Guys, I never said that chewing gum would deplete your digestive enzymes, you came up with that.
    i question your memory


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    Foods fill you up more, have higher nutrition level, cost less, and are more complete.

    I personally can feel the difference between food and shake...I can even tell the difference between a low quality protein powder (like concentrate and isolate mix) vs hydrolized or isolate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert View Post
    I personally can feel the difference between food and shake...
    i don't question this, but..

    I can even tell the difference between a low quality protein powder (like concentrate and isolate mix) vs hydrolized or isolate.
    i question this

    if you tell me you can tell the diff between identically constructed powders (cals/p/c/f) but can distinguish satiation levels simply based on processing methods..
    yup, i'll question that all day long
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw View Post
    you spelled kitchen wrong
    I lol'd at this for a while, still lol'ing currently in fact bahahahaha!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    I lol'd at this for a while, still lol'ing currently in fact bahahahaha!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert View Post
    Foods fill you up more, have higher nutrition level, cost less, and are more complete.

    I personally can feel the difference between food and shake...I can even tell the difference between a low quality protein powder (like concentrate and isolate mix) vs hydrolized or isolate.
    You said isolate twice. I too can tell the difference between isolate and isolate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    You said isolate twice. I too can tell the difference between isolate and isolate
    I can't

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    So I made a shake today and blended in some oats (was out of Glycomyx ) and left em kinda chunky so I could chew! Gotta get the enzymes flowing.

    Notsrs...actually kinda srs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    actually kinda srs.
    i don't question that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I can't

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    Oohh isolate mix; musta skipped that part on my phone haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Oohh isolate mix; musta skipped that part on my phone haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i question the veracity of your questioning

    i question your memory

    i question..err n/m
    Why do you guys only quote my first sentence? I never said the word deplete. I said decline. There's a difference. Why is it that forums are only used for trolls? Grow up. You know very well what I said. And what it meant. If not, then I guess ignorance really is a bliss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post
    Guys, I never said that chewing gum would deplete your digestive enzymes, you came up with that. What I said was that it can lead to a decline in enzymes.
    That's how you quote when your not going out of context to troll over a forum made to share information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post
    Why do you guys only quote my first sentence? I never said the word deplete. I said decline. There's a difference. Why is it that forums are only used for trolls? Grow up. You know very well what I said. And what it meant. If not, then I guess ignorance really is a bliss.
    Why is a decline in total enzymes a concern? As long as there are sufficient digestive enzymes for each meal without physiological side effects, I don't really see an issue in a decline. One could argue that a bulking diet would also make the amount of digestive enzymes decline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post
    Why do you guys only quote my first sentence? I never said the word deplete. I said decline. There's a difference. Why is it that forums are only used for trolls? Grow up. You know very well what I said. And what it meant. If not, then I guess ignorance really is a bliss.
    and you quote me, for this?

    okay, i'll play

    i have a buddy, he is losing his hair
    ergo, the hair on his head is in decline
    and thus, his hair has been depleted

    de·plete

    /diˈplēt/


    Verb


    1.Use up the supply of; exhaust the abundance of.
    2.Diminish in number or quantity.




    de·cline
    [dih-klahyn] verb

    to fail in strength, vigor, character, value, etc.; deteriorate.





    now i question if you know how to read a dictionary

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post

    That's how you quote when your not going out of context to troll over a forum made to share information.
    I never said chew gum and live off shakes.
    I just said chew gum.
    You're becoming your own enemy in this argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    and you quote me, for this?

    okay, i'll play

    i have a buddy, he is losing his hair
    ergo, the hair on his head is in decline
    and thus, his hair has been depleted

    de·plete

    /di'pl?t/

    Verb

    1.Use up the supply of; exhaust the abundance of.
    2.Diminish in number or quantity.

    de·cline
    [dih-klahyn] verb

    to fail in strength, vigor, character, value, etc.; deteriorate.

    now i question if you know how to read a dictionary

    good day sir
    Seriously ? You just showed that these words aren't the same in your own copy and paste.

    You know what those words mean right? I'll make it easy for you.

    de·cline**
    /di'kl?n/
    Verb
    Become smaller, fewer, or less; decrease: "the birth rate continued to decline".
    Noun
    A gradual and continuous loss of strength, numbers, or quality.

    de·plete**
    /di'pl?t/
    Verb
    Use up the supply of; exhaust the abundance of.

    Synonyms
    exhaust - drain - empty - use up - evacuate

    Obviously 'to become smaller' or a gradual loss isn't the same as the exhausting or using up the supply of something.


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    in the verb state, they are synonyms sir

    many words have different contextual meanings

    it is not a stretch (as you seem to feel) to use them interchangeably for the terminology we are speaking of

    in any event, i can see the persona you wish to display here, and politely decline to be sucked into your hair-splitting minimization of your own ludicrous ideas and fantastic physiological philosophies on enzymatic function -- whether it is decline, deplete, or de-whatever

    but i thank you for questioning me..

    and yes, i question how you will fare on this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yes, i question how you will fare on this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post

    many words have different contextual meanings
    I'm glad you realize this. Yet still fail to see the context in which I used the words.

    I give up.

    Like I said, its a bliss.

    Guys. I'm not here to argue. I've lurked for years. And thought this was a forum with open minded people here to discuss things. Yet I join a thread and get attacked and my own words used against me out of context. I don't care if I fare well in such a situation. Its not worth it to argue over the internet, especially on forums, because even if you win, your still retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post
    Guys. I'm not here to argue. I've lurked for years. And thought this was a forum with open minded people here to discuss things. Yet I join a thread and get attacked and my own words used against me out of context. I don't care if I fare well in such a situation. Its not worth it to argue over the internet, especially on forums, because even if you win, your still retarded.
    fair enuff

    rather than go down a road to argue semantics or context (especially if you think you were being picked on or misquoted), you should have stuck to the point you were trying to make and discussed the point intelligently with this man, who is really the only one who bothered to ask you a question pertinent to your stance, and yet you ignored:

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Why is a decline in total enzymes a concern? As long as there are sufficient digestive enzymes for each meal without physiological side effects, I don't really see an issue in a decline. One could argue that a bulking diet would also make the amount of digestive enzymes decline.
    for my part, i said one thing about memory and you started quoting me and spewing words like troll and ignorance
    which, to no wonder, i could take offense to, no?

    is not about winning or making someone else look bad here

    and this last post from you looks genuine and good, so let's get past that crap and let bygones be bygones, and start over

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronagis View Post
    I'm glad you realize this. Yet still fail to see the context in which I used the words.

    I give up.

    Like I said, its a bliss.

    Guys. I'm not here to argue. I've lurked for years. And thought this was a forum with open minded people here to discuss things. Yet I join a thread and get attacked and my own words used against me out of context. I don't care if I fare well in such a situation. Its not worth it to argue over the internet, especially on forums, because even if you win, your still retarded.
    I think the issue here is miscomunication; people interpretted decline and deplete as being essentially the same thing, which I also happen to do in certain contexts. If such a thing occurs (as it did) do not take anything said thereafter as an attack; simply reiterate your initial point / rephrase if you must.
    Back on topic though; if you were overly concerned you could imitate the mastication process or add chunky things to your shake (like banana or whatnot), in any case this would not strike me as being a huge problem due to the fact that chewing isnt the only initater of digestion.
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    What did I miss? It says 12 pages on my phone, I'm not reading all that.

    I drink a shake twice per day. Well, three if you get technical.

    Bfast, post workout, always.
    And the third, somedays I sip on a shake throughout the day to keep aminos pumping in steadily, when I know I won't be eating for a while.

    Nutrient timing is a science. Your stupid if you think otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    What did I miss? It says 12 pages on my phone, I'm not reading all that.

    I drink a shake twice per day. Well, three if you get technical.

    Bfast, post workout, always.
    And the third, somedays I sip on a shake throughout the day to keep aminos pumping in steadily, when I know I won't be eating for a while.

    Nutrient timing is a science. Your stupid if you think otherwise.
    Turned into something else entirely. ---> Mastication thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    fair enuff

    rather than go down a road to argue semantics or context (especially if you think you were being picked on or misquoted), you should have stuck to the point you were trying to make and discussed the point intelligently with this man, who is really the only one who bothered to ask you a question pertinent to your stance, and yet you ignored:



    for my part, i said one thing about memory and you started quoting me and spewing words like troll and ignorance
    which, to no wonder, i could take offense to, no?

    is not about winning or making someone else look bad here

    and this last post from you looks genuine and good, so let's get past that crap and let bygones be bygones, and start over

    go ahead and expound on your platform of thought, if you have valid info to share
    Dude I am so confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    What did I miss? It says 12 pages on my phone, I'm not reading all that.

    I drink a shake twice per day. Well, three if you get technical.

    Bfast, post workout, always.
    And the third, somedays I sip on a shake throughout the day to keep aminos pumping in steadily, when I know I won't be eating for a while.

    Nutrient timing is a science. Your stupid if you think otherwise.
    Basically.. op was proved wrong and ran his mouth far to long rather than digesting education that was thrown his way and this thread is no longer about protein!
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Basically.. op was proved wrong and ran his mouth far to long rather than digesting education that was thrown his way and this thread is no longer about protein!
    You made several relevant puns, though I'm not sure you intended to
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post

    Basically.. op was proved wrong and ran his mouth far to long rather than digesting education that was thrown his way and this thread is no longer about protein!
    He was lacking digestive enzymes.
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