Protein Shake vs FOOD Source

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    I know from personal experience stuff tears your stomach up

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I know from personal experience stuff tears your stomach up
    anecdotal experience shared, certainly has use
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Betaine hcl =/= betaine anhydrous
    betaine anhydrous = TMG ( Trimethylglycine)
    Betaine hcl = betaine hydrochloride

    Betaine hcl can be used for low stomach acid. Worth a shot to try for your reflux.

    Betaine anhydrous is great stuff too but not the same. See - Betaine As An Ergogenic Aid for more on TMG

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    I am glad you cleared that up lol.

    I was thinking "they are definitely not talking about the same thing".
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    I should have saw that comment coming. Kinda walked right into that

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I should have saw that comment coming. Kinda walked right into that
    lulz
    is easy to do, happens to me all the time..

    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I am glad you cleared that up lol.

    I was thinking "they are definitely not talking about the same thing".
    see? looky there

    different context, but same thing

    doesn't help engrish isn't my first language, some things get lost in the thought translation lol
    add a lill ADD to the mix..bad recipe is bad

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    He's saying that the least likely pathway for protein is too add weight because of all the other roles in which protein has take precedent. Amino acids have a huge amount of varying roles including but not limited to transportation of molecules through the blood, form enzymes for digestive function and provide the building blocks for tissue repair. Because of the importance of its role, the body tries not to break it down for any purpose in which it is not needed.

    When protein needs are met, the body deaminates proteins (remving the amine group from the carboxyl group), and after conversion to urea, it is pee'd out as waste. The remainding Carbon group is then free to be used as energy (dependant on the amino acids) or stored.

    EDIT: its my interpreation of what Snag is saying
    Almost! Almost all the amino acid substrate we have (mostly from daily protein turnover) is actually used for new body protein synthesis, 80% of which is skeletal muscle tissue. Protein breakdown is also actually the #1 source of new amino acids in the body, accounting for 400g of new amino acids a day (as opposed to the much lower number you get via diet).

  7. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    well, jiigzz gets technical about it, but sure
    to put make it simple, the basic TEF formula (thermic effect of food)
    looking at it another way, is hardest for body to digest, so makes body work harder
    to view it in numerical value:
    protein - @30% of every protein cal burned in digestion
    carbs - @6-8% of every cal burned in digestion
    fats - @2-3% of every cal burned in digestion

    while protein will help in muscle tissue repair and growth surely - the great value in bb'ing circles should not be looked at as protein = "gaining weight" but rather (in combination with lowering of other macros) viewed as protein helps you lose weight (or aids in body comp)

    digestive energy expenditure is (in my opinion) a most overlooked aspect in this realm, by nutritionists and diet "gurus" alike

    Wow, good info, thanks.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Almost! Almost all the amino acid substrate we have (mostly from daily protein turnover) is actually used for new body protein synthesis, 80% of which is skeletal muscle tissue. Protein breakdown is also actually the #1 source of new amino acids in the body, accounting for 400g of new amino acids a day (as opposed to the much lower number you get via diet).
    Are you saying (this is my interpretation) that deamination does not occur? I'm not quite sure I follow, perhaps I should wait for clarification before I presume anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    So due to this cluster **** of a thread I decided to do a little research involving dairy and allergies.

    I have for quite sometime now (8+ years) had GERD and apparently it could be from dairy consumption... Hmmm... I'm going to go a little deeper later but I may give no dairy a go and see what happens. it would be nice to not have to take a damn pill every morning thirty minutes before I eat.

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    Before the combo starts to drift I stumbled upon this

    http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/16/2/116.pdf

    Figured it may be useful to you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Before the combo starts to drift I stumbled upon this

    http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/16/2/116.pdf

    Figured it may be useful to you.


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    I started reading it during breakfast and will finish up on lunch. It looks to be of great use thanks bud.

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