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    Opinion on multi


    Came across this multi. Is it any good?


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    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 4 Capsules
    Servings Per Container: 30
    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    ESSENTIAL AMINO ACID MATRIX
    L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Valine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Isoleucine, L-Methionine, L-Threonine, L-Histidine, L-Tryptophan
    552 mg


    SUPER ANTIOXIDANT MATRIX
    Grape Seed Extract, pTeroPureâ?˘† (pterostilbene)
    60 mg


    MENTAL FOCUS MATRIX
    Flax Seed, Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA), Ginko Bilboa
    210 mg


    LIVER DETOXIFICATION MATRIX
    N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin), Schizandra Berry
    135 mg


    JOINT SUPPORT MATRIX
    Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Cissus Quadrangularis Extract, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
    275 mg


    DIGESTIVE HEALTH MATRIX
    Pancreatine Enzyme, Papaya Enzyme
    110 mg


    HEART SUPPORT MATRIX
    Garlic Extract, Hawthorne Berry, CoQ10
    60 mg


    **Daily Value not Established | * Based on a 2,000 Calorie Diet


    Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Silica, Magnesium Stearate, Titanium Dioxide


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    †pTeroPure is a trademark of chromaDex inc.




    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    Vitamin A
    10,000IU
    200%


    Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
    300 mg
    500%


    Vitamin D
    333 IU
    83%


    Vitamin E
    200 IU
    667%


    Vitamin B1 (Thiamine)
    50 mg
    3,333%


    Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)
    50 mg
    3,125%


    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)
    50 mg
    2,500%


    Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin)
    50 mcg
    833%


    Patothenic Acid (Calcium Panthothenate)
    50 mg
    500%


    Niacin (Niacinamide)
    25 mg
    125%


    Biotin
    25 mcg
    8%


    Folic Acid (Folate)
    50 mcg
    13%


    Calcium (From Calcium Carbonate)
    250 mg
    25%


    Magnesium (Magnesium Oxide)
    150 mg
    38%


    Iodine (as Kelp)
    50 mcg
    33%


    Zinc (As Zinc Citrate)
    10 mg
    67%


    Potassium (Potassium Chloride)
    50 mg
    1%


    Copper (As Copper Gluconate)
    50 mg
    3%


    Chromium (As Chromium GTF)
    50 mcg
    42%


    Recommended Use




    Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement take 1 serving (4 capsules) daily with food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosburia View Post
    Came across this multi. Is it any good?

    --------------------------------------------------
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 4 Capsules
    Servings Per Container: 30
    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    ESSENTIAL AMINO ACID MATRIX
    L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Valine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Isoleucine, L-Methionine, L-Threonine, L-Histidine, L-Tryptophan
    552 mg

    SUPER ANTIOXIDANT MATRIX
    Grape Seed Extract, pTeroPureâ?˘† (pterostilbene)
    60 mg

    MENTAL FOCUS MATRIX
    Flax Seed, Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA), Ginko Bilboa
    210 mg

    LIVER DETOXIFICATION MATRIX
    N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin), Schizandra Berry
    135 mg

    JOINT SUPPORT MATRIX
    Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Cissus Quadrangularis Extract, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
    275 mg

    DIGESTIVE HEALTH MATRIX
    Pancreatine Enzyme, Papaya Enzyme
    110 mg

    HEART SUPPORT MATRIX
    Garlic Extract, Hawthorne Berry, CoQ10
    60 mg

    **Daily Value not Established | * Based on a 2,000 Calorie Diet

    Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Silica, Magnesium Stearate, Titanium Dioxide

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    †pTeroPure is a trademark of chromaDex inc.

    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    Vitamin A
    10,000IU
    200%

    Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
    300 mg
    500%

    Vitamin D
    333 IU
    83%

    Vitamin E
    200 IU
    667%

    Vitamin B1 (Thiamine)
    50 mg
    3,333%

    Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)
    50 mg
    3,125%

    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)
    50 mg
    2,500%

    Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin)
    50 mcg
    833%

    Patothenic Acid (Calcium Panthothenate)
    50 mg
    500%

    Niacin (Niacinamide)
    25 mg
    125%

    Biotin
    25 mcg
    8%

    Folic Acid (Folate)
    50 mcg
    13%

    Calcium (From Calcium Carbonate)
    250 mg
    25%

    Magnesium (Magnesium Oxide)
    150 mg
    38%

    Iodine (as Kelp)
    50 mcg
    33%

    Zinc (As Zinc Citrate)
    10 mg
    67%

    Potassium (Potassium Chloride)
    50 mg
    1%

    Copper (As Copper Gluconate)
    50 mg
    3%

    Chromium (As Chromium GTF)
    50 mcg
    42%

    Recommended Use

    Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement take 1 serving (4 capsules) daily with food.
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    Pour sources of vitamins.. the other matrices are laughable.
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    I would opt for Orange TRIad, or even Animal Pak... those are the best multis with "extras" added in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    I would opt for Orange TRIad, or even Animal Pak... those are the best multis with "extras" added in.
    Agree on the OT. More efficacious dosing where it is needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    I would opt for Orange TRIad, or even Animal Pak... those are the best multis with "extras" added in.
    This. Both have treated me well.
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    Orange triad is a staple for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post
    Orange triad is a staple for me.
    +1 for da OT!
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    thx guise
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    If its a tablet its junk in my opinion.

    This isn't saying all capsule muti are better.

    How long does orange triad take to dissolve water?
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    Isn't this the new multi by finaflex?

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    This formula is bunk. It has so many under-dosed ingredients that are just in there so they can say they are there. If you need a multi, I would go with Orange Triad since it has a nice joint support formula as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    If its a tablet its junk in my opinion.

    This isn't saying all capsule muti are better.

    How long does orange triad take to dissolve water?
    I've heard this question before but forgot how it was explained. Something about dissolving in water vs stomach acid being a truer test? Anxious to hear the answer; this time I'll remember it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    I've heard this question before but forgot how it was explained. Something about dissolving in water vs stomach acid being a truer test? Anxious to hear the answer; this time I'll remember it!
    Your right. Stomach acid is usually a ph of 1, plus the stomach churning... makes the water test baseless. Try something with a ph of 1, 100+ degrees in temp and churning motion

    Every batch is put through a disollution test as well
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    Also, vinegar is a ph of 3, but I've heard people dissolving them in watered down vinegar in ~20 min (while turning it with a utensil.)

    Also, try putting food in a bowl of vinegar

    Your stomach has a way of working things out; tablets are perfectly effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows

    Your right. Stomach acid is usually a ph of 1, plus the stomach churning... makes the water test baseless. Try something with a ph of 1, 100+ degrees in temp and churning motion

    Every batch is put through a disollution test as well
    Not really.

    If it takes a week to dissolve in water, I can make a pretty good guess it isn't going to dissolve before it comes out the other end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows
    Also, vinegar is a ph of 3, but I've heard people dissolving them in watered down vinegar in ~20 min (while turning it with a utensil.)

    Also, try putting food in a bowl of vinegar

    Your stomach has a way of working things out; tablets are perfectly effective
    Tablets aren't effective. Tablets suck.

    Well, not all, but most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Not really.

    If it takes a week to dissolve in water, I can make a pretty good guess it isn't going to dissolve before it comes out the other end.
    Always in for new info,what is a good multi you would suggest?
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    Go with Animal pak bro..**** rips
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411
    Always in for new info,what is a good multi you would suggest?
    One from Douglas laboratories

    Or xtend-life
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    Quote Originally Posted by DV663
    Go with Animal pak bro..**** rips
    Crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Crap
    Haha okay guy...explain
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DV663

    Haha okay guy...explain
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    One from Douglas laboratories

    Or xtend-life
    Top two multi vitamin companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Why?
    Yea i guess your right, no need to explain at 5'7 178...thats really all I needed to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DV663 View Post

    Yea i guess your right, no need to explain at 5'7 178...thats really all I needed to know.
    Lol what a tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    One from Douglas laboratories

    Or xtend-life
    thanks man,im gonna check em out tonight.
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    Are you all taking the full dose of orange triad? I started taking just two pills, last longer and I still get vit. Discharge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X2006ibm View Post
    Are you all taking the full dose of orange triad? I started taking just two pills, last longer and I still get vit. Discharge.
    I generally take 3 a day.
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    Jbry may be a little off with the water kinetics, but his point is valid. I work in a pharmaceutical lab with equipment that is collectively worth more than entire supplement companies, and in designing various dosage forms, MANY tablets of mutlvitamin-size fail to dissociate in a kinetically favorable manner. Meaning they break down ultimately, but the window of absorption is small. When you consider the sheer number of different compounds in a multivitamin, you really want a powder, softgel, or capsule.

    That said, I have used Orange Triad and it's got a good profile.
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    Source Natural's Life Force is a good multi. Mst's MVP multi is pretty good as well
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    I don't like a lot of these "kitchen sink" vitamins because your waisting space and money due to what other posters have said, underdosing. Orange Triad is great as mentioned. I like OptiMEN by optimum and I like both of Beverly's multi's, their superpak and their Ultra 4. Just add the other stuff in with BCAA products and digestive enzymes and healthy fats.
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    Don't over think it. You don't know exactly what your body needs at every moment. I take a simple prenatal vitamin, all it is, is a multi that has more than usual cause its prenatal. Women need more for their babys, you need more for your growing muscles. It works for me so its up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Jbry may be a little off with the water kinetics, but his point is valid. I work in a pharmaceutical lab with equipment that is collectively worth more than entire supplement companies, and in designing various dosage forms, MANY tablets of mutlvitamin-size fail to dissociate in a kinetically favorable manner. Meaning they break down ultimately, but the window of absorption is small. When you consider the sheer number of different compounds in a multivitamin, you really want a powder, softgel, or capsule.

    That said, I have used Orange Triad and it's got a good profile.
    WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME MY WATER IDEA IS SOMEHOW DIFFERENT THAN THE DIGESTIVE PROCESS? NOOOOOOOOOO!

    But I thank you for the explanation. Man I'm getting lazy, though might also be cause I'm using my phone 90% of my post.

    But I haven't taken a look at orange triad.
    Used samples of anavite though
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    Quote Originally Posted by DV663

    Yea i guess your right, no need to explain at 5'7 178...thats really all I needed to know.
    Why? You got something against short people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Why? You got something against short people?
    yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME MY WATER IDEA IS SOMEHOW DIFFERENT THAN THE DIGESTIVE PROCESS? NOOOOOOOOOO!

    But I thank you for the explanation. Man I'm getting lazy, though might also be cause I'm using my phone 90% of my post.

    But I haven't taken a look at orange triad.
    Used samples of anavite though
    I would highly recommend taking a look at OT. I have tried a variety of different multis, and I always coming back to OT. It is honestly the most complete formula IMO.
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