Any good PWO's for those that are stim tolerant?

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I've stayed off of PWO's for awhile because those I've tried my body seems to get used to it even once I up the dosage. I've tried craze (the candy grape, not original grape which I've heard was stronger), jack3d, animal rage, and shock therapy. I've been curious about purus labs muscle marinade.
 
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muscle marinade is amazing.my favorite to this day.i am very stim tolerant myself even after a break,but i also like pni prodigy!
 
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muscle marinade is amazing.my favorite to this day.i am very stim tolerant myself even after a break,but i also like pni prodigy!
Yes Prodigy is something else. Perfect amount of energy, focus and pump. Have had amazing feedback.
 
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For the Stim tolerant I usually recommend this c*cktail:

-1.5 scoop Focus-XT
-1 Bronkaid (25mg ephedrine)
-1 cap Adrena-G
-Enjoy
 
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For the Stim tolerant I usually recommend this c*cktail:

-1.5 scoop Focus-XT
-1 Bronkaid (25mg ephedrine)
-1 cap Adrena-G
-Enjoy
sounds very nice,im a huge fan of focus xt.was just trying to lead him towards heavier stimmed pres!
 
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I've wanted to try prodigy but the website I found it on didn't seem like it worth the price compared to number of servings. I assume that's a small company trying to pull its weight though
 
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I've wanted to try prodigy but the website I found it on didn't seem like it worth the price compared to number of servings. I assume that's a small company trying to pull its weight though
order from nutraplanet!great prices there!$26.75
 
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order from nutraplanet!great prices there!$26.75
Yes ^ here or you can go to pni-online.com and it lists a bunch of places its sold at.
 
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Thanks I'll definitely have to give it a try! I just ordered craze a couple weeks ago and was extremely disappointed
 
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Thanks I'll definitely have to give it a try! I just ordered craze a couple weeks ago and was extremely disappointed
Sounds good man. To be honest i have heard a lot of hype about craze and haven't tried it yet. What were you disappointed about?
 
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Thanks I'll definitely have to give it a try! I just ordered craze a couple weeks ago and was extremely disappointed
PM your info ill send you some prodigy scoops out of my stash blueberry and watermelon so you know what flavor you will want when you order brother
 
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Sounds good man. To be honest i have heard a lot of hype about craze and haven't tried it yet. What were you disappointed about?
Great pre but lack of pumps and HORRIBLE crash for me hardcore
 
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Sounds good man. To be honest i have heard a lot of hype about craze and haven't tried it yet. What were you disappointed about?
I've take. It for the last week or so and I could feel more energy from it but couldn't notice a difference in pumps or focus. Took it on an empty stomach and a half hour before as well
 
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I've take. It for the last week or so and I could feel more energy from it but couldn't notice a difference in pumps or focus. Took it on an empty stomach and a half hour before as well
ahh i see that is disappointing ha. You wont be disappointed with prodigy my friend. Seems howwedo has ya all set up. Let us know what you think man.
 
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I've take. It for the last week or so and I could feel more energy from it but couldn't notice a difference in pumps or focus. Took it on an empty stomach and a half hour before as well
You can experiment with prodigy I like it either way but read some reviews and how others liked to take it but as for focus it's pretty intense...you deff don't want to leave the gym at all with no crash...that orchard lean in it is freaking amazing to me plus I love the BA tingles mmmm makes me feel like it's really working through me
 
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the focus from prodigy is world class!im so bummed im out of it myself,will be on the next order though!
 
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the focus from prodigy is world class!im so bummed im out of it myself,will be on the next order though!
Thanks bro :) I love how easy it's stacked with stuff like swoll-n or Hemavol
 
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It seems like I won't be disappointed, the focus is what I look for the most! Especially at my home gym and so called "gym" on my campus. A lot of eye candy distractions but I work through it haha
 
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It seems like I won't be disappointed, the focus is what I look for the most! Especially at my home gym and so called "gym" on my campus. A lot of eye candy distractions but I work through it haha
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Well just don't use that awesome focus from prodigy on the wrong thing haha
 
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Well just don't use that awesome focus from prodigy on the wrong thing haha
Trust me I won't haha it was more of a stab at everyone else there. Good facility but is used by most people as a social arena rather than a gym
 
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Trust me I won't haha it was more of a stab at everyone else there. Good facility but is used by most people as a social arena rather than a gym
haha oh trust me i know. Thats why i left the school gym and got a membership at a powerhouse back home.
 
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I've stayed off of PWO's for awhile because those I've tried my body seems to get used to it even once I up the dosage. I've tried craze (the candy grape, not original grape which I've heard was stronger), jack3d, animal rage, and shock therapy. I've been curious about purus labs muscle marinade.
Can't go wrong :)
 

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I'm extremely stim tolerant, but Focus XT and Craze both have consistently strong effects on me, probably since they are psychostimulant-oriented.
 
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sounds very nice,im a huge fan of focus xt.was just trying to lead him towards heavier stimmed pres!
Heavier stimmed meaning more caffeine or??? Because Focus XT+Adrena G (1,3 dimethyl)+Bronkaid (ephedrine) is pretty stim heavy...

For the Stim tolerant I usually recommend this c*cktail:

-1.5 scoop Focus-XT
-1 Bronkaid (25mg ephedrine)
-1 cap Adrena-G
-Enjoy


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Heavier stimmed meaning more caffeine or??? Because Focus XT+Adrena G (1,3 dimethyl)+Bronkaid (ephedrine) is pretty stim heavy...





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Yes I did mean higher caffeine content,focus xt is a great product and I myself enjoy it all the time.guess I should have defined that more.
 
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I have a very high tolerance to stims and have been trying to find a good pre that will give me a good focus. I'm currently taking craze because I like that I still get a somewhat good focus even though I've gone through a couple tubs. How good is the focus from prodigy? A pre with a good focus is always my favorite.
 
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Yes I did mean higher caffeine content,focus xt is a great product and I myself enjoy it all the time.guess I should have defined that more.
I have always wanted to try this product. Ever tried the caffeine free version?
 
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I have a very high tolerance to stims and have been trying to find a good pre that will give me a good focus. I'm currently taking craze because I like that I still get a somewhat good focus even though I've gone through a couple tubs. How good is the focus from prodigy? A pre with a good focus is always my favorite.
The focus from prodigy is amazing,but if focus is the main thing you are looking for.focus xt is another one to check out for sure!
 
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I have always wanted to try this product. Ever tried the caffeine free version?
Yes,I love the stim free,use it on my stim breaks,only way I even make it on a stim break.great stuff.
 
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Disclaimer, I'm not a Stim junkie. So hemorage always made my workouts intense, felt abit aggressive at times so it was always good to push that extra weight.

Believe they might have changed the formula tho. To save money you can always take caffeine pills and down em with a pwo
 
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I'm gonna have to try this focus xt out for myself. I see around a lot. Curious !
 
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Disclaimer, I'm not a Stim junkie. So hemorage always made my workouts intense, felt abit aggressive at times so it was always good to push that extra weight.

Believe they might have changed the formula tho. To save money you can always take caffeine pills and down em with a pwo
Most pre workouts have a sufficient dose of caffeine in them already.unless stim free of course!
 
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I'm gonna have to try this focus xt out for myself. I see around a lot. Curious !
You will enjoy!its in my top 3,and my favorite stacking option there is.
 
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Yes,I love the stim free,use it on my stim breaks,only way I even make it on a stim break.great stuff.
I will definitely have to get some stim free focus xt for my stim breaks, I have been looking hard trying to find a good stim free product and you just sold me on it, haha. Thanks man!
 
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I will definitely have to get some stim free focus xt for my stim breaks, I have been looking hard trying to find a good stim free product and you just sold me on it, haha. Thanks man!
No prob,only stim free I will buy personally!
 
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Focus XT is my go-to. Both the caffeine free and caffinated one (dependant on when I want to use it) have worked wonders for me. I'll usually add more caffeine tabs to the stack if I need more of a kick.
 
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Focus xt is the best I use it to study or as a pwo. But I dabbled into bulk products using 7g cm, 500mg of agmatine, and 3200mg of beta alanine with 200mg of caffeine . And it's cheap an you control the doses, nothing as good as having control over your sups
 
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Focus xt is the best I use it to study or as a pwo. But I dabbled into bulk products using 7g cm, 500mg of agmatine, and 3200mg of beta alanine with 200mg of caffeine . And it's cheap an you control the doses, nothing as good as having control over your sups
Drop in 2g COP with those pre-workout doses and trust me...you will notice the power of the SNS mighty combo. That and some 25mg Ephedrine of course :D!
 
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Drop in 2g COP with those pre-workout doses and trust me...you will notice the power of the SNS mighty combo. That and some 25mg Ephedrine of course :D!
im iffy on ephedrine, to many bad reports on it. personally i like having my heart beat . But in all seriousness wasnt that banned? And COP is?
 
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im iffy on ephedrine, to many bad reports on it. personally i like having my heart beat . But in all seriousness wasnt that banned? And COP is?
Creatinol o phosphate
 
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im iffy on ephedrine, to many bad reports on it. personally i like having my heart beat . But in all seriousness wasnt that banned? And COP is?
It's safe, it's not...technically (get it at walgreens, OTC) and COP is Creatinol-O-Phosphate, NOT creatine and it helps with endurance a lot. Ok to put it bluntly, helps with rest time between sets, I can always squeeze in 2-3 more reps with it and anecdotally it helps with Aerobic performance (running, cardio and the like).
 
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It's safe, it's not...technically (get it at walgreens, OTC) and COP is Creatinol-O-Phosphate, NOT creatine and it helps with endurance a lot. Ok to put it bluntly, helps with rest time between sets, I can always squeeze in 2-3 more reps with it and anecdotally it helps with Aerobic performance (running, cardio and the like).
Im about to look into that, since I started GVT my rest times got sliced in half so anything to help with endurance would be awesome.
 
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I've wanted to try prodigy but the website I found it on didn't seem like it worth the price compared to number of servings. I assume that's a small company trying to pull its weight though
Please focus on amount of actives per scoop versus number of servings. It is an excellent value compared to most.

Thanks for your interest.
 
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prodigy samples came in yesterday and used it today for back day. needless to say i will be ordering a tub as soon as possible! Thank you PNI!
 

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