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  1. I have no problems staying asleep until my alarm wakes me, but what is there to help me fall asleep...natural or supplemental, I'm not worried.

    Stims are non existent after lunch (1pm).

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  2. Melatonin should do the trick.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I have no problems staying asleep until my alarm wakes me, but what is there to help me fall asleep...natural or supplemental, I'm not worried.

    Stims are non existent after lunch (1pm).

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    The best natural (non-prescription) option would be a formula by Irwin Naturals called "POWER TO SLEEP".

  4. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I have no problems staying asleep until my alarm wakes me, but what is there to help me fall asleep...natural or supplemental, I'm not worried.

    Stims are non existent after lunch (1pm).

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    While melatonin straight up will likely do the trick, I've had some really whacked out dreams, so I prefer a blend. My absolute fave is Sleep by Top Secret Nutrition. One tab before bed and I'm out! You can get it on NutraPlanet too!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by chikthatlifts View Post
    melatonin straight up will likely do the trick
    mmm doubtful
    while melatonin may be one of the better known and popularized "remedies", but that actuality of this helping is dependent on the individual's melatonin levels -- which, is usually not low and therefore not the problem. there are many ppl who this won't help at all

    i'm in the same boat, been having horrible sleep issues for an extended time..just picked up some G8 from Finaflex
    ooooooo wow. incredible!
    went from taking forever to fall asleep, waking every 6x an hour, to these last few nights of nice drifting off at bedtime/going hours w/o waking up/bed is not disturbed at all so i am not even moving in my sleep!
    i awake feeling so rested and good these last few mornings..

    truly amazing

    check it out, here
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...-servings.html
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  6. So what is it that you companies product has that would work over melatonin?

    also how would OP know if his levels are low or his circadian rhythm is off?
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  7. melatonin works, GABA also works by helping me relax
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post

    mmm doubtful
    while melatonin may be one of the better known and popularized "remedies", but that actuality of this helping is dependent on the individual's melatonin levels -- which, is usually not low and therefore not the problem. there are many ppl who this won't help at all
    All depends on how much you take. Agreed that the standard 3mg dose won't do it for most. In the past, I've taken 10mg at once and conked out!

  9. I used to take Ambien like candy to try and sleep. I now use NightRest and it works awesome. Just a combo of magnesium, GABA, taurine, melatonin, lemon balm, passion flower, chamomile, skullcap, and Glycine.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Nugget5 View Post
    So what is it that you companies product has that would work over melatonin?

    also how would OP know if his levels are low or his circadian rhythm is off?
    it's in the formula

    Quote Originally Posted by chikthatlifts View Post
    All depends on how much you take. Agreed that the standard 3mg dose won't do it for most. In the past, I've taken 10mg at once and conked out!
    i'll disagree again
    if you have norm levels of melatonin production, you can take all the supplemental melatonin in the world - to no avail

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    melatonin works, GABA also works by helping me relax
    dint make any blanket statements to melatonin NOT working

  11. Quote Originally Posted by 996ttelise View Post
    I used to take Ambien like candy to try and sleep. I now use NightRest and it works awesome. Just a combo of magnesium, GABA, taurine, melatonin, lemon balm, passion flower, chamomile, skullcap, and Glycine.
    skullcap lol (some of the names of these herbs)
    anyway - magnesium is a great relaxant
    there is a product called Calm, that is awesome relaxant if you are just tight/tensioned, and need to relax

  12. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    skullcap lol (some of the names of these herbs)
    anyway - magnesium is a great relaxant
    there is a product called Calm, that is awesome relaxant if you are just tight/tensioned, and need to relax
    Skullcap is pretty well known stuff.

    http://health.howstuffworks.com/well...l-remedies.htm

    http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/skullcap-000273.htm

  13. Quote Originally Posted by 996ttelise View Post
    Skullcap is pretty well known stuff.

    http://health.howstuffworks.com/well...l-remedies.htm
    yes i know
    wasn't disputing, simply laffing at name
    (horny goat weed makes me laff too)

  14. our REM-8.0 works really well, formally known as ressurect. 1 teaspoon does the job nicely and would allow the product to last for a good bit of time
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  15. Target's brand of Unisom sleep gels combined with ZMA. Taking Unisom on it's own knocks me out but I still feel very tired the next morning. When I added in ZMA, I wake up feeling refreshed and energized.

  16. ZMA ..
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    just don't claim that this boosts testosterone..may help sleep and balance slight mineral deficiencies tho

  17. I have used g8. I found it to be real good for giving me deep sleep. Not getting to sleep. Same with ZMA and melatonin.

    I had been used a Time Released Melatonin at 3mg.

    Nothing yet. I did try and keep room at a certain temp and it seemed to help somewhat. Just a struggle....

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I have used g8. I found it to be real good for giving me deep sleep. Not getting to sleep.
    you dose it empty stomach ~15min before sleep?

    i still say try some Calm..could be a cheap fix

    other options are like herbal teas, Celestial Seasonings has Sleepytime and Tension Tamer variations, worked for me couple yrs back but i've gotten out of the tea habit for some reason
    don't know if they have these things Down Under...

  19. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    you dose it empty stomach ~15min before sleep?

    i still say try some Calm..could be a cheap fix

    other options are like herbal teas, Celestial Seasonings has Sleepytime and Tension Tamer variations, worked for me couple yrs back but i've gotten out of the tea habit for some reason
    2.5 hours after last meal.

    Will look into it Steve. Thx

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  20. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    it's in the formula

    i'll disagree again
    if you have norm levels of melatonin production, you can take all the supplemental melatonin in the world - to no avail

    dint make any blanket statements to melatonin NOT working
    I wonder if coop would agree. He recommends daily dosing of melatonin at <1g IIRC.
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  21. Have you looked at some natural ways to help get to sleep earlier? No TV in the bedroom, same time/routine for going to sleep each night (getting on a schedule), an hour or so before to wind down, turning the cell phone off?

    Not to say any of the supplement advice isn't good or necessary, but if I had the issue I'd research and start with the non try taking this answers if it was me.

    Also I realize that depending on what you do the schedule thing may or may not be possible.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I wonder if coop would agree. He recommends daily dosing of melatonin at <1g IIRC.
    i don't check my knowledge to make sure it matches with what someone else says, sorry

    paraphrasing someone elses words from 'recollection' does not excite me much, either



    perhaps if you want to hear from him on this topic, you should PM him rather than channel your memory

  23. Unfortunately sleep enhancers develops tolerance, mas so you should change often to avoid it.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i don't check my knowledge to make sure it matches with what someone else says, sorry

    paraphrasing someone elses words from 'recollection' does not excite me much, either



    perhaps if you want to hear from him on this topic, you should PM him rather than channel your memory
    Perhaps I should rephrase myself

    Only the dosing part was from memory. natural melatonin levels decrease with age, hence why many adults go to bed later yet wake much earlier than teenagers (consdier how tired many teenagers are/ how ling they sleep for in comparison).

    Dosing melatonin before sleep can shift the circadian clock backward thus allowing for an earlier sleep cycle and ergo a more refreashed awakening.

    While what you said regarding melatonin production may be true; due to the natural decline in levels, supplementing may help offset.


  25. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Perhaps I should rephrase myself

    Only the dosing part was from memory. natural melatonin levels decrease with age, hence why many adults go to bed later yet wake much earlier than teenagers (consdier how tired many teenagers are/ how ling they sleep for in comparison).

    Dosing melatonin before sleep can shift the circadian clock backward thus allowing for an earlier sleep cycle and ergo a more refreashed awakening.

    While what you said regarding melatonin production may be true; due to the natural decline in levels, supplementing may help offset.

    well i can appreciate that stance

    however - i don't know that i would compare the sleep patterns of teens/older adults and give reasoning to differing melatonin levels as being the be all/end all here..you have a whole entire cascade of hormonal differences going on between the two, my friend

    infants require more sleep than children, children require more sleep than teens, teens require more sleep than adults
    none of this has anything to do with internal melatonin production

    but -- i will most definitely agree with the aspect of IF there is a decline in melatonin production, then supplementation of such will certainly correct this and aid in sleep patterns
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