PR-XT/Nolvadren-XT Stack question

[Cordeen]

Just out of curiosity, besides the Nolvadren, what other estrogen suppressing agents are there?

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[Profion]

From the inside your slowly dieing, what in gods name are you thinking about. Guess taking a cycle of testosteron would be milder on the system then running so much down the throat.

[thebigt]

From the inside your slowly dieing, what in gods name are you thinking about. Guess taking a cycle of testosteron would be milder on the system then running so much down the throat.

lol...i am running the nolvadren xt/pr-xt stack now....along with my usual 2 packs of androgel.


other than the occassional achey joints, i feel great....and i am 54!!!

[SChasEE]

From the inside your slowly dieing, what in gods name are you thinking about. Guess taking a cycle of testosteron would be milder on the system then running so much down the throat.

Currently I'm on day 4 and my joints feel fine, I feel solid and I'm motivated. No complaints here!

[Clemenza]

Just out of curiosity, besides the Nolvadren, what other estrogen suppressing agents are there?

Erase Pro. Ive used both and saw noticeable differences. Much better drying and muscle hardness with Erase Pro

[SChasEE]

Erase Pro. Ive used both and saw noticeable differences. Much better drying and muscle hardness with Erase Pro

What would you attribute the extra drying in muscle hardness to? Isn't the same base compound used in both products?

[Clemenza]

What would you attribute the extra drying in muscle hardness to? Isn't the same base compound used in both products?

Not all extracts are created equal. I cant tell you how many straight whey isolates I've tried... Some destroy my stomach some don't. Exact same ingredient profile, different source. And i know from experience and reputation that PES only uses the best.

Also the boerhaavia diffusa and euonymous alatus have some very solid anti estrogenic, anti catabolic, and diuretic effects.

[thebigt]

Erase Pro. Ive used both and saw noticeable differences. Much better drying and muscle hardness with Erase Pro

please post up link to your log of nolvadren, i missed it!!!

[Clemenza]

please post up link to your log of nolvadren, i missed it!!!

I did not say I logged Nolvadren. I did not log Erase Pro either. But I have used both and saw significantly better results with Erase Pro.

[thebigt]

I did not say I logged Nolvadren. I did not log Erase Pro either. But I have used both and saw significantly better results with Erase Pro.

you have SAID a lot of things...

like you never had and stiff joints on nolvadren but did on erase!!!

i have ran at least 10 bottles of erase, at least-probably many more, and 2 nolvadren killed my joints worse than 3 erase did.

we are comparing the same ingredient..that is like saying bayer aspirin worked wonders but anacin did nothing-they are both aspirin.

now if you were comparing advil to eleve you might have a point....

[Clemenza]

you have SAID a lot of things...

like you never had and stiff joints on nolvadren but did on erase!!!

i have ran at least 10 bottles of erase, at least-probably many more, and 2 nolvadren killed my joints worse than 3 erase did.

we are comparing the same ingredient..that is like saying bayer aspirin worked wonders but anacin did nothing-they are both aspirin.

now if you were comparing advil to eleve you might have a point....

Why are you taking my results with Erase Pro and Nolvadren so personal? lol

[d1sc1ple]

you have SAID a lot of things...

like you never had and stiff joints on nolvadren but did on erase!!!

i have ran at least 10 bottles of erase, at least-probably many more, and 2 nolvadren killed my joints worse than 3 erase did.

we are comparing the same ingredient..that is like saying bayer aspirin worked wonders but anacin did nothing-they are both aspirin.

now if you were comparing advil to eleve you might have a point....

I think he was A; talking about the fact that even though it has the same I gradient the extract quality may not be as high and B; he was talking about the Erase Pro which has other anti estrogen and anti cortisol properties in it.

[thebigt]

op...how is this stack treating you?

[SChasEE]

op...how is this stack treating you?

Its treating me extremely well in fact, however I did make a few changes. This is the stack I ended up going with:

-Dymatize Elite Fusion 7
-Orange Triad Multi
-Super Cissus
-Green Magnitude(creatine complex)
-White Flood
-OxyElite Pro
-Nutraplanet DAA Powder
-Nolvadren-Xt
-Pr-Xt

Age:25
Height:6'1
Starting Weight:180I
I just came off a small month bulk just before I started running this, during which I went from 175 to 180. Currently I'm on day 10 of this stack, and I've already gotten down to 175. I haven't lost any muscle, and my weights have gone up across the board. I average around 3500 cal a day, and my macros are around 45 40 15. I eat clean about 90% of the time, every couple days I'll eat something semi qustionable lol. I also put at down at least 140 oz of water a day.

Since day 4 the on-feeling has increased steadily everyday. I feel solid, energized, and focused. I just want to keep going at the end of my workouts, which range from 1-1 1/2hrs, usually I'm whooped out of my mind haha. Vascularity has increased as well. Frequent urination is prevalent, which I would credit to the NXT. Libido is up, I think due to the Pr-xt. Appetite has increased slightly. I haven't experienced the dry joints people have reported with the nxt and erase, I am taking the Super Cissus though. No headaches either.

I've been doing a 4 day split with Cardio on off days:
Mon-Chest, Tris, Calves
Tues-Back, Bis, Abs
Wed-Cardio(Eliptical 45min)
Thurs-Shoulders, Calves
Fri-Upper legs, Abs
Sat-Cardio(Eliptical 45min)
Sun-Cardio(Eliptical 45min)

That's about all I have for the moment, if I think of anything else Ill add the info in. Any questions welcome!

[thebigt]

my results are much the same although i have had joint issues, and haven't had any increase i appetite...it was high to start with though.

[SimplyDraven]

Erase Pro. Ive used both and saw noticeable differences. Much better drying and muscle hardness with Erase Pro

I meant in his stack. Not in general.