Best stim free preworkout or preworkout stack?

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  1. I'm stim free right now because i start contest prep in a month on heavy stims.. 1 scoop hemavol + 1 scoop compete pre, and 1 scoop compete intra.. keeps me rockin the whole time.


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  2. Re: Best stim free preworkout or preworkout stack?


    I'm with bolt... Why no creatine?

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  3. Hemavol hands down

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I'm with bolt... Why no creatine?

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  5. 1 scoop Caffeine-Free Focus XT
    2-3 scoops SNS Citrulline Malate

    Cheap, simple, and effective.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    1 scoop Caffeine-Free Focus XT
    2-3 scoops SNS Citrulline Malate

    Cheap, simple, and effective.
    CM on sale too

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    1 scoop Caffeine-Free Focus XT
    2-3 scoops SNS Citrulline Malate

    Cheap, simple, and effective.
    What about agamatine? Or is that not really necessary?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    What about agamatine? Or is that not really necessary?
    Agmatine would make it even better, but citrulline malate is on a crazy sale here at Nutra right now.

  9. I'm a fan of Anabolic Ignite granted it has creatine and OP so no creatine. Cheaper to make your own at that point.

  10. anabolic ignite.

    I still have no idea why NP does not carry it or the companies products because they are absolutely amazing!

  11. Now what about taking just 1 scoop of Jack 3d Micro as opposed to stacking Hemavol or Citrulline and Stim Free Focus XT since the Jack 3d only has about 80 mg (est) caffeine

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    Now what about taking just 1 scoop of Jack 3d Micro as opposed to stacking Hemavol or Citrulline and Stim Free Focus XT since the Jack 3d only has about 80 mg (est) caffeine
    1 scoop micro & 1 scoop Hemavol is awesome!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    1 scoop micro & 1 scoop Hemavol is awesome!
    So would that eliminate the need for the Focus XT since I'd be getting the focus ingredients from the Micro?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post

    So would that eliminate the need for the Focus XT since I'd be getting the focus ingredients from the Micro?
    Yes, go with one or the other (focus-XT or micro) no need to combine 2 caffeinated products.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Yes, go with one or the other (focus-XT or micro) no need to combine 2 caffeinated products.
    sweet, yeah, i dont think 80 mg will affect me much since I was doing close to 600 mg of caffeine a day a week ago...no need to go completely cold turkey

  16. I love agmatine. But I haven't tried citrulline in the doses most here are using and recommending. I may have to do that.
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  17. Try out Formutech Endurance plus agmatine or swoll-n and some extra beta alanine. That makes a kickass stim free pre that will focus on pumps and endurance.

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  18. IMO anything with "Vol" in it is the way to go.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by DWeaver View Post
    IMO anything with "Vol" in it is the way to go.
    Volatile?
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  20. Volatile is a great pre workout that doe not stim you out, however it does mave a min amount of stims.

    I would highly reccomend Endurance BCAA Plus and add agmatine. I use Endurance Intra workout with Volatile pre. I hate the stimmed feeling, thats why I LOVE Volatile. If you dont want a stimmed feeling but dont mind a minimum amount of energy try Volatile. The pumps are amazing.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    Volatile?
    And HermaVol

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DWeaver View Post

    And HermaVol
    I bet that would stack really nice
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    I bet that would stack really nice
    It's awesome, great energy but not cracked out. I add a little extra beta alanine and 20g of waxy maze. I switch out between Volatile and Craze but Hermavol is a stable of mine.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DWeaver View Post

    It's awesome, great energy but not cracked out. I add a little extra beta alanine and 20g of waxy maze. I switch out between Volatile and Craze but Hermavol is a stable of mine.
    Now craze gets me feeling pretty cracked out. The og with 1,3 in it
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    Now craze gets me feeling pretty cracked out. The og with 1,3 in it
    Craze never had 1,3 in it

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  26. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post

    Craze never had 1,3 in it

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    Craze just had a bunch of different forms of PEA, never DMAA
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  27. Best stim free preworkout or preworkout stack?


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  28. Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post

    Craze just had a bunch of different forms of PEA, never DMAA
    My mistake! Craze still tweaked me out a bit too much
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    My mistake! Craze still tweaked me out a bit too much
    Theres like 4 different forms of Phenylethylamine in it, thats why and in combination with caffeine it can get pretty crazy
    No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.

  30. So I had some supps in stock at my house so I only had to buy a couple things, so my final stack is Hemavol, Jack3d Micro, Purple Wraath, Modern BCAA (intra)
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