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    Help me design a killer stack for the Spring!


    The goal is to get looking in top shape for the summer. Muscle definition and fullness, with that vascular, dry and lean look. Ideally I would start running this stack sometime in March or April and then again in June and July, or something like that.

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    Any ideas or suggestions? Any input would be appreciated!

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    Re: Help me design a killer stack for the Spring!


    Quote Originally Posted by Type O Hero View Post
    X-Factor
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    SuperSaponins



    Any ideas or suggestions? Any input would be appreciated!
    These would stack well, never tried supersaponins before but have wanted to
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    Erase Pro + Versa 1 + Anabeta + DAA + IGF 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type O Hero View Post
    The goal is to get looking in top shape for the summer. Muscle definition and fullness, with that vascular, dry and lean look. Ideally I would start running this stack sometime in March or April and then again in June and July, or something like that.

    X-Factor
    Erase or Erase Pro
    EndoSurge
    DAA
    SuperSaponins

    Any ideas or suggestions? Any input would be appreciated!
    Versa-1 should be at the base of any recomp plan. The feedback we have shows an outstanding number of users with a drop in BF & increase in strength.

    I haven't used erase but hear great things about it. SuperSaponis is a solid option but, IMO X-Factor is tough when cutting bc of the DOMS is causes.

    DAA is solid for any natural goals. TestPowder has prolactin & AI control built into it so there aren't any concerns with the "sides" DAA may cause. Not to mention the other goodies inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Versa-1 should be at the base of any recomp plan. The feedback we have shows an outstanding number of users with a drop in BF & increase in strength.

    I haven't used erase but hear great things about it. SuperSaponis is a solid option but, IMO X-Factor is tough when cutting bc of the DOMS is causes.

    DAA is solid for any natural goals. TestPowder has prolactin & AI control built into it so there aren't any concerns with the "sides" DAA may cause. Not to mention the other goodies inside.
    I agree with keeping X-Factor (ArA) off the equation in times where caloric allotment is restricted, the pro-inflammatory effect of ArA will make it harder for you to recover without the needed calories. Not to mention cuts including AIs tend to be hard for the joints, that would be no bueno for them if you throw in ArA too.

    I go agree on the Versa-1 and AnaBeta Elite though, Forskolin on cuts and 2 anabolics should help keep the mass while leaning out nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Versa-1 should be at the base of any recomp plan. The feedback we have shows an outstanding number of users with a drop in BF & increase in strength.

    I haven't used erase but hear great things about it. SuperSaponis is a solid option but, IMO X-Factor is tough when cutting bc of the DOMS is causes.

    DAA is solid for any natural goals. TestPowder has prolactin & AI control built into it so there aren't any concerns with the "sides" DAA may cause. Not to mention the other goodies inside.
    Any idea when Versa-1 will be available in the UK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post

    Any idea when Versa-1 will be available in the UK?
    That'll be a bit different. You can check the status of versa-1 internationally, check our Facebook page http://m.facebook.com/login.php?next...absVersa1&_rdr
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    Add in some Cortisol Control like Ergobolic by Ergogenix, or Reduce Xt Toss in DCP or Ergoshred for a nice fat burner

    However judging by your avatar you look boss already some this may not be too much work for you to get where ya want
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    I thought Erase Pro already had that covered?

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    Add in some Cortisol Control like Ergobolic by Ergogenix, or Reduce Xt Toss in DCP
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatburner2007 View Post
    I thought Erase Pro already had that covered?
    Erase has little to no effect on cortisol...but people seem to miss that all the time.
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    ECA
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    glycofuse + 20g Eaa + 2g creatine hcl
    Maybe EndoSurge or something to pulse testosterone.

    All the above is just for fun and do not take it seriously -- but could help someone whom wishes

    to avoid designer hormones/exogenous hormones that disrupt HPTA function

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I agree with keeping X-Factor (ArA) off the equation in times where caloric allotment is restricted, the pro-inflammatory effect of ArA will make it harder for you to recover without the needed calories. Not to mention cuts including AIs tend to be hard for the joints, that would be no bueno for them if you throw in ArA too.

    I go agree on the Versa-1 and AnaBeta Elite though, Forskolin on cuts and 2 anabolics should help keep the mass while leaning out nicely.
    Ara promotes fat loss quite well. It works great on a cut, and DOMS is not synonymous with glycogen depletion.
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    Isn't there a link to ArA and anabolics? I think there is something in the 10th addition anabolic guide about using ArA whilst on cycle...can you elaborate coop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Ara promotes fat loss quite well. It works great on a cut, and DOMS is not synonymous with glycogen depletion.
    Didn't mean DOMs mean glycogen depletion...what I did mean is that it might be a bit too much to handle , the pro inflammation that is, with the ArA and less calories to recover, given the deficit needed for a cut...
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Isn't there a link to ArA and anabolics? I think there is something in the 10th addition anabolic guide about using ArA whilst on cycle...can you elaborate coop?
    Sure once I'm off the iPad.

    I know. Recover on a cut is hampered due to glycogen depletion and cns fatigue, neither of which ara will affect with it's pro-inflammatory effects in muscle tissue. Ara does not hamper recovery; increased doms does not mean diminished recovery
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Sure once I'm off the iPad.

    I know. Recover on a cut is hampered due to glycogen depletion and cns fatigue, neither of which ara will affect with it's pro-inflammatory effects in muscle tissue. Ara does not hamper recovery; increased doms does not mean diminished recovery
    Yeah, but it makes it so much harder to get outta bed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    ECA
    Kynoselen
    Ipamorelin/sermorelin
    Eviscerate
    Erase
    glycofuse + 20g Eaa + 2g creatine hcl
    Maybe EndoSurge or something to pulse testosterone.

    All the above is just for fun and do not take it seriously -- but could help someone whom wishes

    to avoid designer hormones/exogenous hormones that disrupt HPTA function

    -Matt
    i had never heard of kynoselen before, looked it up, very interesting. looks like daily IM injections, tho, which is a BIG step for most of the guys on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Yeah, but it makes it so much harder to get outta bed...
    This is assuming sleep is undertaken
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    i had never heard of kynoselen before, looked it up, very interesting. looks like daily IM injections, tho, which is a BIG step for most of the guys on here.
    Better off looking for MIC+B12 injections and you can do SubQ with these just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    i had never heard of kynoselen before, looked it up, very interesting. looks like daily IM injections, tho, which is a BIG step for most of the guys on here.
    Myself and others used it back in 2001-2003 era before dabbling in exogenous anabolic agents.

    Noticed increased hunger, increased blood flow or vascularity, muscle fullness, and mild fat-loss, not to mention better endurance training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post
    what is your personal opinion of MK-0677

    After researching S4 several yrs ago I was completely turned off from Sarms -- however I have 'heard' good feedback.

    If I was to try such a thing I would make sure to be off everything else -- get bloods pre and then during and really

    see what is going in here. HPTA measures and basic health parameters.

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