well your pm is full.
having used 4 bottles of UR spray and 3 bottles into pump spray here's my honest take. others may have better experience with it.
i was using UR spray prior to Pump spray.
trying to recall bottle count.
i think its 4 bottles of UR and 3 bottles of pump spray thus far.
for me the leaning out effect long plateaued after the 4th week?(i think i'm in week 13 or 14 now.)
i use 1 bottle every 2 weeks.
as for pump...i'm not sure. i don't feel pumped.
but in terms of veins. i definitely have alot more veins visually.
i feel i'm not what i was before going onto UR/pumpspray- but doesn't mean i needn't put in the hard work.(well at least the magnificient effect fell off after the 4-5th week for me).
i know that the effect of muscle wasting has lessened alot for me. or could be that i added more carbs back into my diet(cardio athlete).
not sure what you make of my opinion. it's kind of what i observe.
i still have another 3 bottles of UR and 5 pump spray. just bought another 2 pump spray. i doubt i'll ever go off pump spray - the reduction of muscle wasting is just too valuable for me(although i would say the effects have plateaued alot)
and oh yes. i do still put on fat. in the first 4 weeks it seemed impossible. but yes after reality comes back. i doubt i'm making more brown fat(which was one of the many selling points/research suggested too). i get pretty cold still so i know. and my maintenance calories level is still about the same where i know if i eat more than that i will definitely put on.
i also added the sodium ursolic acetate tablets somewhere in week 9-12.it didn't enhance any effect nor brought me back to the first 4 weeks experience.(i dose pump spray 2x a day. took about 3-4tabs twice daily during that period.)
so i guess.
the first 4 weeks of you using any arginine ursolic acetate is awesome. takes about a week to get into your system.
then like first love. and love that matures it kinda..... plateaus. but you somehow still need it there.