Best current test-booster?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    it's all just one biiiig science experiment we perform upon ourselves, isn't it

    edit
    oh, and I suppose if someone was looking for a test booster, I inferred that they have a problem with their current test levels. In which case, I would recommend the counsel of a doctor, not an online board, hence my recommendation to investigate in Clomid. I did not mention any sources nor condone it's illegal use.
    inferring is dangerously close to assuming, lol....but the clarification is a nice touch!!!
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  2. Test boosters havent done much for me either, but I have natural high test.

    HGW tho -

    Random boners through out day
    Pumps
    Veins

    Def one of my all time fav supps!
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  3. og phytoserms and daa was my favorite experience with test boosters, a lot of ppl love ***odia which the new phytoserms has added to it

    also had success with testopro
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    Test boosters havent done much for me either, but I have natural high test.

    HGW tho -

    Random boners through out day
    Pumps
    Veins

    Def one of my all time fav supps!
    And what supp is HGW? What's its full name?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by kateean2 View Post
    Bioforge V3 all time favourite followed by Triazole.
    sub this 1000%. strength gains on these better than on ostarine!!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Greenhulk View Post
    And what supp is HGW? What's its full name?
    Horny Goat Weed. The active is called Icariin however.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    sub this 1000%. strength gains on these better than on ostarine!!
    Ostarine seemed to help with my recomp but not for giving that added bit of extra in training.
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  8. I've been under a rock with test boosters as of late, but I'm giving D-Test a run right now and I'm liking it. It's been abouta week and I know it takes 10-12 days for DAA to really get into the system from the logs I've read, but I have noticed an increase in libido already that is pretty significant and the ol' libido has been high to begin with so something is working.

    After this 4 week run I'm going to use Paragon by PNI which is a DAA based test booster with some extra goodies. I have also recently read good things about Perform Erase and Endosurge, but know very little about them.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post
    Horny Goat Weed. The active is called Icariin however.
    Yup, simple and effective. Gets the job done.. or gives you the go ahead to get the job done.

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    SNS DAA + Erase
    Purus Dpol + Erase
    Epharm Testforce + Erase

    The selling point with these is that they are the form used in the actual study.

    DAA + Erase = a good time for most!

    Other test boosters
    SNS Bulbine - very versatile dosing options and the bottle (depending on weight) lasts around two months.

    SNS ZMA

    Athletix Formula X - DAA
    " " - Division 1
    And so on there are tons of options!!!

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    I like bulbine simple and effective
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    did someone say fadogia?
    I respond well to fadogia so I gravitate that direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Funny because the wrath of the DAA fanboys was unleashed on me in another thread when I amounted to the same.
    But let's get back to Clomid for a second. Before recommending Testosterone Replacement Therapy, some doctors and/or endocrinologists (the well-informed, that is) prescribe Clomid in what's known as a "Clomid Challenge."
    As Clomid is a SERM, it's effects on E2, and particularly estradiol in men, can have a tremendous positive effect on testosterone. This is not bro science, but rather simple chemistry.
    To each their own on finding the dosage. I'll stick with fadogia. lol
    That's more pharmacology if anything. True, it can be wonderous for total test levels shooting above 1,000 after a few weeks but monitoring E2 becomes pretty important to the effect.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post
    Horny Goat Weed. The active is called Icariin however.
    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Yup, simple and effective. Gets the job done.. or gives you the go ahead to get the job done.
    I bought it in pure powder form once (standardized to 40% icariin) and tested it for a while. First, it tastes disgusting (I understand this won't be a problem when using caps), second, it gave me diarrhea and a bit of a headache.

    How do you dose it?

  13. i never had bloods done while on daa[at least not that i remember]...but i logged formasurge/endosurge after my doc pulled the plug on my test cyp after 5 years...test at start was around 80, when i was tested after my run of formasurge/endosurge it was 177.

    that may not seem like a dramatic increase, but it had a huge impact on how i felt...libido/energy level/motivation/strength-ect, all went way up, saw major improvement in workouts....

    libido wise, when i 1st tried i-force fadogia in all honesty i wasn't expecting much...it really exceeded my expectations.

    inhibit-p...cheap, effective.

    one day i will run a stack of formasurge/endosurge/fadogia/inhibit-p...
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i never had bloods done while on daa[at least not that i remember]...but i logged formasurge/endosurge after my doc pulled the plug on my test cyp after 5 years...test at start was around 80, when i was tested after my run of formasurge/endosurge it was 177.

    that may not seem like a dramatic increase, but it had a huge impact on how i felt...libido/energy level/motivation/strength-ect, all went way up, saw major improvement in workouts....

    libido wise, when i 1st tried i-force fadogia in all honesty i wasn't expecting much...it really exceeded my expectations.

    inhibit-p...cheap, effective.

    one day i will run a stack of formasurge/endosurge/fadogia/inhibit-p...
    Good to see your levels slowly climbing back after all that time on. I have started the inhibit P and I am noting a slight rise in libido, but I am recovering my own natural T production as well so it is hard to gauge. For the price you definitely can't go wrong.

    Your stack looks like a win, similar to what I am about run.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    one day i will run a stack of formasurge/endosurge/fadogia/inhibit-p...
    That sounds like nothing but goody good news waiting to happen. Let us know when you're on this. I'd like to see how you're doing. I just started Formasurge about a month ago. Noticing some positive recomping and that's that I haven't been as well on my diet as I should be. Still, I'm thinking about buying another bottle when I'm done with it. Starting to dry out. Look fuller, despite having lost about 4-5lbs....(guessing it was water?)

    SWEET!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    I respond well to fadogia so I gravitate that direction.


    To each their own on finding the dosage. I'll stick with fadogia. lol
    That's more pharmacology if anything. True, it can be wonderous for total test levels shooting above 1,000 after a few weeks but monitoring E2 becomes pretty important to the effect.

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    BCS has Dominate V3 out now with Fadogia, Prolensis (Bulbine) and some other stuff. Looks interesting.

    SServing Size: 6 Capsules
    Amount Per Serving %DV
    Zinc Aspartate 30mg 100%
    Testos...terone Enhancement Blend 2560mg*

    Fadogia Agrestis P.E., Grape Seed Extract (95% OPC), N-Acetyl Cysteine, ProLensis (Bulbine Natalensis), Mucuna Pruriens (98% L-Dopa), Piperineerving Size: 6 Capsules
    Amount Per Serving %DV
    Zinc Aspartate 30mg 100%
    Testos...terone Enhancement Blend 2560mg*
    Fadogia Agrestis P.E., Grape Seed Extract (95% OPC), N-Acetyl Cysteine, ProLensis (Bulbine Natalensis), Mucuna Pruriens (98% L-Dopa), Piperine


  17. All this test talk makes me want to go home and bust open a bottle of endosurge....how long would/does it take for it to start raising free test...waiting to grab some bulbine to go with it but im interested in giving the ES a whirl for a week or so, just to see how it goes alone then kickin in the bulbine say 10days in

  18. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i never had bloods done while on daa[at least not that i remember]...but i logged formasurge/endosurge after my doc pulled the plug on my test cyp after 5 years...test at start was around 80, when i was tested after my run of formasurge/endosurge it was 177.

    that may not seem like a dramatic increase, but it had a huge impact on how i felt...libido/energy level/motivation/strength-ect, all went way up, saw major improvement in workouts....

    libido wise, when i 1st tried i-force fadogia in all honesty i wasn't expecting much...it really exceeded my expectations.

    inhibit-p...cheap, effective.

    one day i will run a stack of formasurge/endosurge/fadogia/inhibit-p...
    Damn you make a solid stack recommendation.

    I tried so far endosurge/daa/erase, endosurge/licogenix and endosurge/tongkat ali and always nice libido boost.

    DAA gives me runs so I'm done with that but endosurge really kicks in nicely for me especially if adding some estrogen controlling substance.

    Fadogia never tried but tempted but then again looking as well that member's review for Dopadex/Forskolin-95 ahh so many good stack recommendations and not enough time to try them all.

    In summary: everything that raises dopamin levels increase my libido much more than just raising testosterone and endosurge works on raising both.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Come on bro you need to take it easy. There was no "wrath" of DAA fanboys that were unleashed upon you. I simply asked you not to say its trash. Then jiiggz asked about bloods.

    No one is recommending DAA as a TRT option its a "natural" booster. You mentioned simple chemistry, well, if you're into science, search on pubmed for the research on DAA. The research is there, the results are there. Maybe not for you but such is life, some supps don't work for everyone.

    Again, relax a little bit man no one is attacking you.

    - Valdez


    Have YOU done a "search on pubmed for the research on DAA?" When I did, all I found was studies on DAA & testosterone where the subjects were frogs, ducks, pigs, lizards, mice, rats, birds, hamsters, and monkeys. When I did my own human study on myself, my bloodwork showed extremely low test levels after being on DAA.
    But I understand you're a rep/lobbyist for SNS, a manufacturer or supplier of DAA. So I can see why you've taken offense to my fact-based opinion on one of your products.

    and the
    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    belongs here
  20. Re: Best current test-booster?


    Oh God here we go... You're one of those guys huh... I've been nothing but helpful in my posts to you and simply asked you not to discredit a supplement based on your poor personal results. Like I've said a couple of different times it's unfortunate it didn't work for you, sorry man, better luck next time.

    Here ya go...

    http://www.rbej.com/content/7/1/120

    Link to serum levels

    http://www.rbej.com/content/7/1/120/table/T1

    Pubmed version

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/

    Saying that my opinion doesn't matter based on my rep status is absurd. Your opinion on discrediting a supplement is useless - due to lack of research...

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Oh God here we go... You're one of those guys huh... I've been nothing but helpful in my posts to you and simply asked you not to discredit a supplement based on your poor personal results. Like I've said a couple of different times it's unfortunate it didn't work for you, sorry man, better luck next time.

    Here ya go...

    http://www.rbej.com/content/7/1/120

    Link to serum levels

    http://www.rbej.com/content/7/1/120/table/T1

    Pubmed version

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/

    Saying that my opinion doesn't matter based on my rep status is absurd. Your opinion on discrediting a supplement is useless - due to lack of research...

    Ciao,
    Valdez


    Always willing to learn :D

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Damn you make a solid stack recommendation.

    I tried so far endosurge/daa/erase, endosurge/licogenix and endosurge/tongkat ali and always nice libido boost.

    DAA gives me runs so I'm done with that but endosurge really kicks in nicely for me especially if adding some estrogen controlling substance.

    Fadogia never tried but tempted but then again looking as well that member's review for Dopadex/Forskolin-95 ahh so many good stack recommendations and not enough time to try them all.

    In summary: everything that raises dopamin levels increase my libido much more than just raising testosterone and endosurge works on raising both.
    you will get no arguement from me, endosurge is a dammed fine supplement...

    i still am dying to try the:
    formasurge/endosurge/fadogia/inhibit-p stack....the fadogia and inhibit-p are really cheap all the time, now if nutra runs a sale on formasrge i am all over it....already picked up 4 endosurge from the black fri sale!!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  23. Testboosters are a waste of money

  24. Just go celibate for a month an save money

  25. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Have YOU done a "search on pubmed for the research on DAA?" When I did, all I found was studies on DAA & testosterone where the subjects were frogs, ducks, pigs, lizards, mice, rats, birds, hamsters, and monkeys. When I did my own human study on myself, my bloodwork showed extremely low test levels after being on DAA.
    But I understand you're a rep/lobbyist for SNS, a manufacturer or supplier of DAA. So I can see why you've taken offense to my fact-based opinion on one of your products.

    and the belongs here
    Ok:

    1. Thermolife owns the patent for DAA.

    2. There are now TWO human studies.

    Your "fact-based opinion" (<- lol) pales in comparison to 2 fairly large human trials on DAA.

  26. Had my blood levels done before and 4 days after a 50 day DAA run. Before-767; After-970. In addition, my appetite, sex drive and weight room performance all increase while I'm on DAA. Hands down the best supplement I've used and only topped by creatine in my book. Thought I'd throw my 2 pennies in here.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by dubfungus View Post
    Just go celibate for a month an save money
    if you are taking a test booster because you want better sex....going celibate kinda defeats the purpose since you are having no sex at all.


    hell man, even bad sex is better than no sex.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  28. Quote Originally Posted by dubfungus View Post
    Testboosters are a waste of money
    How could you possibly say that after all I've been through? Don't you know that people like you and me are wrong about our opinions on this? DAA works because people belieeeeeve and there are stuuuudies. Even though it didn't raise my test levels.

    And all this because I said DAA is bunk... Now it's funny to me

    Go get 'em boys. Learn that whipper snapper something!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    1. Thermolife owns the patent for DAA.
    Just curious - does this have any relevance for other DAA products? Does this patent apply in the US only or worldwide? I ask because other DAA supplements are still being sold and I haven't noticed any changes in their price.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Greenhulk View Post
    Just curious - does this have any relevance for other DAA products? Does this patent apply in the US only or worldwide? I ask because other DAA supplements are still being sold and I haven't noticed any changes in their price.
    It should be US only, and things will not change on such a short time scale. But things will be different in the future.
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