Best current test-booster?
- 12-16-2012, 05:06 PM
- 12-16-2012, 10:09 PM
Depends on what I'm going for. I found different products to yield different results.
DAA of any kind: I need 4-5g to see anything and I've never been real impressed.
For a hard, vascular and more cut up work: Erase, Free Test, or AD3. I highly recommend NOT stacking these together, joints will be dry like a desert.
For a more fuller, sized up look and strength gains: IGF2, TestoPro, Animal M-Stak (minus the red pill)
Chaotic Labz makes Annihilation which, at the price of about $120, is the most complete all round natty test boost ive found and it is good stuff... but its also $120.
FreeTest+IGF2 or TestoPro+IGF2 = win.
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12-16-2012, 10:24 PM
Annihilation is junk. If you look at the label, zinc is the 3rd ingredient, which should clock in at a little over 100mg MAXIMUM. So you're really only buying DAA and fadogia.
12-16-2012, 10:42 PM
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12-17-2012, 03:14 AM
12-17-2012, 04:50 AM
But let's get back to Clomid for a second. Before recommending Testosterone Replacement Therapy, some doctors and/or endocrinologists (the well-informed, that is) prescribe Clomid in what's known as a "Clomid Challenge."
As Clomid is a SERM, it's effects on E2, and particularly estradiol in men, can have a tremendous positive effect on testosterone. This is not bro science, but rather simple chemistry.
12-17-2012, 12:46 PM
Re: Best current test-booster?
He asked you that not to call you out or say you're wrong, this isn't BB dot com. He was asking to try and get a full spectrum view on what was actually going on.
Lets talk about Clomid for a second... First off, for most its illegal to use without an rx. Obtaining things like that from a research chem company is extremely tricky. It also comes with a whole host of side effects. One of my guys at the fire station was on it trying to reboot his T and ended up having to get off of it. He was sleeping all day, literally 16 hours a day, he was emotional and depressed.
^ this is a perfect example of what we're discussing right now. Clomid may work for some BUT in others it can cause emotional problems, lethargy, (just a minute example of the sides it has) and some times it doesn't even work. Sound familiar? DAA didn't work for you, Clomid doesn't work for some.
No one is recommending DAA as a TRT option its a "natural" booster. You mentioned simple chemistry, well, if you're into science, search on pubmed for the research on DAA. The research is there, the results are there. Maybe not for you but such is life, some supps don't work for everyone.
Again, relax a little bit man no one is attacking you.
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12-17-2012, 01:03 PM
12-17-2012, 01:10 PM
12-17-2012, 01:12 PM
it's all just one biiiig science experiment we perform upon ourselves, isn't it
oh, and I suppose if someone was looking for a test booster, I inferred that they have a problem with their current test levels. In which case, I would recommend the counsel of a doctor, not an online board, hence my recommendation to investigate in Clomid. I did not mention any sources nor condone it's illegal use.
12-17-2012, 01:19 PM
12-17-2012, 03:58 PM
Test boosters havent done much for me either, but I have natural high test.
HGW tho -
Random boners through out day
Def one of my all time fav supps!
12-17-2012, 04:06 PM
og phytoserms and daa was my favorite experience with test boosters, a lot of ppl love ***odia which the new phytoserms has added to it
also had success with testopro
12-17-2012, 04:21 PM
12-17-2012, 04:32 PM
12-17-2012, 04:48 PM
12-17-2012, 07:52 PM
12-17-2012, 08:09 PM
I've been under a rock with test boosters as of late, but I'm giving D-Test a run right now and I'm liking it. It's been abouta week and I know it takes 10-12 days for DAA to really get into the system from the logs I've read, but I have noticed an increase in libido already that is pretty significant and the ol' libido has been high to begin with so something is working.
After this 4 week run I'm going to use Paragon by PNI which is a DAA based test booster with some extra goodies. I have also recently read good things about Perform Erase and Endosurge, but know very little about them.
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12-17-2012, 11:34 PM
12-17-2012, 11:43 PM
12-18-2012, 12:01 AM
That's more pharmacology if anything. True, it can be wonderous for total test levels shooting above 1,000 after a few weeks but monitoring E2 becomes pretty important to the effect.
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12-18-2012, 01:55 AM
How do you dose it?
12-18-2012, 01:24 PM
i never had bloods done while on daa[at least not that i remember]...but i logged formasurge/endosurge after my doc pulled the plug on my test cyp after 5 years...test at start was around 80, when i was tested after my run of formasurge/endosurge it was 177.
that may not seem like a dramatic increase, but it had a huge impact on how i felt...libido/energy level/motivation/strength-ect, all went way up, saw major improvement in workouts....
libido wise, when i 1st tried i-force fadogia in all honesty i wasn't expecting much...it really exceeded my expectations.
one day i will run a stack of formasurge/endosurge/fadogia/inhibit-p...
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12-18-2012, 07:47 PM
Your stack looks like a win, similar to what I am about run.
12-18-2012, 08:00 PM
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