I have been using Demiurge for about a week now, I started the first day at 50mg. I always start off low dose and work my way up. I upped it the next day to 100, next day 150,next 200. The effects for me personally were very little, this morning I took my sccop of Focus-XT and then took 200mg of Demi and can really tell a difference between just taking Focus alone. I feel clear headed, calm, and overall better mood. I have tried the Ani/choline and had GREAT results for about month and then that combo seemed to fade as far as effects go, I couldnt tell the difference from taking it or not, not sure why this happened. My Doc, is really into noots and we will start soon on getting me off Prozac and Klonipin and see how that goes. I have become very apathetic and foggy minded in the last couple of years, so I,m ready to try something else....
Right on, Ripd. Look into methylfolate, methylcobalamin and p5p if you haven't already. These are now staples for me and keep some of the depression and cloudiness at bay. I'm trying to conserve my supply of Ani and not use it too steadily as I worry about the effects fading. I save it for high stress/high responsibility times. I also worry that Ani will get banned for good. Amazon stopped selling it already.
I spoke with a couple of the Ani suppliers that had to stop selling on Amazon and a couple of them are selling their stock and then they are out. Apparently, with this being a prescription noot outside of the USA, Amazon didn't want to be involved with selling it OTC. Needless to say, a big chunk of their business is overseas where it can't be obtained, so stopping this will hurt business a lot. Plus, there seems to be some uncertainty on how racetams are going to be looked at moving forward. It's well recognized that Aniracetam is a powerful noot, and it does seem that it will one of the first to get hit if they do any regulations.
I stocked up on 2 years worth, just in case. Shelf life is until 2015.
I would assume prami and phenyl are more potent?
I heard demiurge isn't safe or healthy like severe toxic?
But how strong was it and what dose but yes choline is needed
i am taking noopept solo for 4 days now and dont notice much to be frank. perhaps i have to add a cholin source to that?
Interesting^. Noopept apparently I read wasn't effectively. I would think it's wise to take Nootropics 1 by 1. To see what is potent and what really doesn't work.. I'll try out
~ Demiurge and see what happens apparently 100mg - 200mg ED is the dosage that does the trick...
I also hear Choline isn't really needed..
A friend recommended these.
1. Noopept + Cererbrolysine + Methylene Blue
2. " High Dose Uridine( 100mg TAU, 600mg UMP) and low dose piracetam(200mg) is the best combo Ive ever had. Gaba blockers are also good only in low doses though. "
and Zi Cao ^
I've never takin Ani. it really is being yanked huh. I should grab some. I've noticed that switching to 5 on 2 off mix of my noots lately that my recall is been much better than expected. Some days I am still facing minor irritability, like temper flare ups. But for the most part recall info in study sessions has been almost photographic
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The irritability factor is big for me and so far, Ani is about the only one that has a calm feel to it. The memory part is not as dramatic as other racetams though. It's more of "calm, cool, collected so I can think well" kinda thing, whereas Noopept or phenylpiracetam are more "F-yeah, get out of my way!".
I can't say if Ani is being yanked, I just know that it will be harder to find soon. We all know that these things tend to run in cycles and usually make a comeback. It's not like other supplements that have been pulled because they are dangerous, there just seems to be a crackdown because it is a prescription in other parts of the world, so maybe they are making it more difficult to purchase.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
I don't seem to need as much Ani as most people to get a good response. I usually take 350 mg in the morning with fish oil and Dr's Best Brain Enhancers which has 300mg of Alpha-GPC and 100 mg phosphatidyl serine.
I usually only take a second dose later in the day if I am doing data entry or report writing, otherwise one dose works well for me.
whats a good choline source btw?