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    Alpha GPC is the king, but most people can get away with a cheap choline citrate and be fine.

    CDP-choline a lot of people like, but for the price, I far prefer GPC. Bitartrate and Phosphatidylcholine are also options at the mid- price point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    What noots are you using?

    at present moment I alternate focus xt, dimiurge noopept I have choline and alcar as well 5 days on im taking one of the above combos 2 days off
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    could you elaborate a bit more on your noopept dosing. ani isnt doing hardly anything for me so wanting to switch it up. My choline source has been gpc
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    CDP-choline is the preferred source due to its ability to regulate metabolism and membrane phospholipid synthesis (which plays a big role in many "nootropic" effects).
    http://pescience.com/
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    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
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    Long term effects of use of noops?

    I think focus xt would be better to have every day for long periods

    Demisurge + noopept + focus xt is a amazing stack btw
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    Do you take Noopept + Demisurge daily? or when needed like 2-3 days before a big examination?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sina View Post
    Do you take Noopept + Demisurge daily? or when needed like 2-3 days before a big examination?
    Every morning with some amino energy and focus xt

    I miss some days for the demisurge because I tend to get a tolerance after 2-3 days so it definitely should be used in short spurts when needed

    I haven't taken any noops for a bit. Having a break
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    What a great thread. After reading through this and experimenting with pretty much all the noots mentioned in this thread, I have a few questions . Is there anything wrong with only taking noots as needed? Or 5 days on 2 days off?

    I am in love with the ANi, GPC, sulbutiamine stack and the demi, FXT, DAA stacks. Different, but both amazing in their own way. I also like throwing in Noopt sometimes with either one usually in exchange for Ani or Demi.

    I usually only take the ani gpc for max 3-5 days at a time and the demo, fxt, daa randomly when needed.
    Would I see any great increase in benefits by taking either of these everyday?
    Or any detrimental effects by taking them every day?

    Thanks
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    Re: Smart drugs.


    I am a fan of taking them as needed. I feel they r more effective that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    Every morning with some amino energy and focus xt

    I miss some days for the demisurge because I tend to get a tolerance after 2-3 days so it definitely should be used in short spurts when needed

    I haven't taken any noops for a bit. Having a break
    I'd suggest taking Demiurge a few times per week at most (2-3 days). Most people have better results when taking it less often. I use it about once or twice per month when I have a huge exam to study for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    I'd suggest taking Demiurge a few times per week at most (2-3 days). Most people have better results when taking it less often. I use it about once or twice per month when I have a huge exam to study for.
    Yeah I only take noops now when I need it actually. Demisurge is definitely a 2-3 day thing. But it's extremely intense when you stack it with noopept (or a noop of your choice), focus XT and some caffeine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    Yeah I only take noops now when I need it actually. Demisurge is definitely a 2-3 day thing. But it's extremely intense when you stack it with noopept (or a noop of your choice), focus XT and some caffeine!
    Some nootropics are more beneficial to take over an extended period of time (ALCAR, Hup A, etc.), but Demiurge is not one of those. It's actually one of the few nootropics that I've noticed an actual difference with in cognitive function and recall. I do have to give noopept a try in the near future.
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    There's similarities between Demi and Noopept..but they're hard to pin down. So far, I prefer occasional Demi use as noopept is a bit edgier for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    There's similarities between Demi and Noopept..but they're hard to pin down. So far, I prefer occasional Demi use as noopept is a bit edgier for me.
    I've heard this as well but I'm still going to give Noopept a try (just ordered some). Should make for an interesting stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    I've heard this as well but I'm still going to give Noopept a try (just ordered some). Should make for an interesting stack.
    Use them both and you'll be pleasantly surprised
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    Phenylpiracetam > all, even the great coluracetam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Phenylpiracetam > all, even the great coluracetam.
    That has been my experience as well, but I think you are a bit more experienced than I am when it comes to nootropics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Phenylpiracetam > all, even the great coluracetam.
    what are the effects you notice after administration?can you really feel it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    what are the effects you notice after administration?can you really feel it?
    You get a pretty intense focus and motivation to accomplish whatever it is you're trying to do. You may feel a little warmer and things get done much more quickly than usual with a high level of retention (if studying). It's my go-to for big exams when I was too lazy to study over a long period of time. It's the only 'racetam that I've noticed any kind of beneficial effect from thus far.
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    Could some of you answer WHY i sometimes get negative effects from some of the following stacks?

    1 scoop Focus XT by itself - sometimes great, most of the time very anxious and nervous feeling.
    1 scoop FXT with 25mg ephedrine- ALWAYS amazing, clear focus, no jitters, no nervous feeling.
    1 scoop FXT, 100mg demi(phenylpiracetam), 20mg NOOPEPT- amazing focus, but almost too much like my brain hurt, and had a "hangover" type feeling after.(with DAA no hangover)

    750mg Aniracetam, 200 mg Sulbutiamine, 600mg Alpha GPC, 200mg caffeine - Just feel GOOD, happy, motivated, retain alot more, seem to speak with more confidence, concentration is good.


    What is strange to me is how FXT can cause me to feel so anxious without ephedrine, but with it I am calm and focused.

    Was hoping some of you could tell me WHY this is, not that it matters but it interests me. Maybe I have low dopamine levels or something??
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    what are your thoughts on taking phenylracetam ( lgi n-pept) under 21 years ?
    so far i tested hup a - between 200-400 mcg ( 400 gave me an awfuk feeling , jitters , nausea , appetite loss , muscle cramps)
    but i heard good reviews of phenylracetam but i just wanted to make sure it isnt dangerous for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomb View Post
    what are your thoughts on taking phenylracetam ( lgi n-pept) under 21 years ?
    so far i tested hup a - between 200-400 mcg ( 400 gave me an awfuk feeling , jitters , nausea , appetite loss , muscle cramps)
    but i heard good reviews of phenylracetam but i just wanted to make sure it isnt dangerous for me
    Could be mistaken, but I thought n-pept 10 was noopept, only available phenylpiracetem product I know of is Anteus Labs Demiurge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomb View Post
    what are your thoughts on taking phenylracetam ( lgi n-pept) under 21 years ?
    so far i tested hup a - between 200-400 mcg ( 400 gave me an awfuk feeling , jitters , nausea , appetite loss , muscle cramps)
    but i heard good reviews of phenylracetam but i just wanted to make sure it isnt dangerous for me
    I take phenylpiracetium and im 20, works great for me. Haven't noticed any side effects.
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    oh okay , maybe i confused som products but in an uk shop i found lgi-n pept (N-phenylacetyl-L-prolylglycine ethyl ester) and thought this was phenylpiracetam.
    the problem is that i never get demiurge through european customs :/
    but thanks for the infos
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    Quote Originally Posted by who281 View Post
    Could some of you answer WHY i sometimes get negative effects from some of the following stacks?

    1 scoop Focus XT by itself - sometimes great, most of the time very anxious and nervous feeling.
    1 scoop FXT with 25mg ephedrine- ALWAYS amazing, clear focus, no jitters, no nervous feeling.
    1 scoop FXT, 100mg demi(phenylpiracetam), 20mg NOOPEPT- amazing focus, but almost too much like my brain hurt, and had a "hangover" type feeling after.(with DAA no hangover)

    750mg Aniracetam, 200 mg Sulbutiamine, 600mg Alpha GPC, 200mg caffeine - Just feel GOOD, happy, motivated, retain alot more, seem to speak with more confidence, concentration is good.


    What is strange to me is how FXT can cause me to feel so anxious without ephedrine, but with it I am calm and focused.

    Was hoping some of you could tell me WHY this is, not that it matters but it interests me. Maybe I have low dopamine levels or something??
    The brain and neurotransmitter levels/receptor availability can differ so much that it can be very hard to pinpoint what or why certain combinations work better for some individuals than others. Often relates to choline levels for myself. Best to let the brain find it's 'baseline' level every once in a while and not bombard it with too much of any nutrient. imho anyway.
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    Agree with Mattikus. Everyone's nuerotransmitter levels are unique to the individual so broad based recommendations for dosing or stacks, as Geoffrey Rush said in Pirates of the Caribbean, "They be moor like guidelines.".

    Arrrrr! I took me some Pirate-acetam!

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    ok i found demiurge in an uk store - last question - is it safe for a teen like me (19 years old) to take phenylpiracetam or does it mess up my brain lol?
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