Best Pre-Workout (cheap and effective)

[B3ast]

Whatever Mom and Dad make you for meals. Plus snacks.

Current supps i am on are: Creatine, Whey, Fish Oils, Multi Vitamins.

[snagencyV2.0]

C4 extreme should be ok?

no. 18 to use as well.
no rep should advise a preWO like this for you.
like i said - you are gonna do what you are gonna do..
just don't waste your time looking for someone to co-sign the idea for you.

[B3ast]

no. 18 to use as well.
no rep should advise a preWO like this for you.
like i said - you are gonna do what you are gonna do..
just don't waste your time looking for someone to co-sign the idea for you.

I understand, and thank you for understanding ultimately it is my decsion.

[ryanp81]

PNI Prodigy over everything

To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.

[ryanp81]

I am currently 15.5 years old, 170lbs and 5' 8" is the PNI Prodigy still OK for me? Or Ignited

Well being that your 15 1/2 I'm advising you against all supplementation except for Mom's cooking, protein and maybe a multivitamin/mineral.

[mr.cooper69]

Beast - Go with coffee
T-bone - The purchase of supplements is not consent-restricted

To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.

Agreed, this tactic drives me nuts

[caz1238]

im going with totalis on this one,

LCLT, beta alanine, Citrulline malate, ALCAR, caffeine, Norvaline, and Tyrosine?

thats a damn good pre workout, if i want more caffeine ill just brew an extra cup of coffee >=), either way its a good buy IMO

ALSO, the site is providing 200grams of citrulline malate, not 200mg.

[EBF_2356]

For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
Or
Focus XT stim free + cbol

-Chris
EBF Rep
Mobile App

[Airborne42]

For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
Or
Focus XT stim free + cbol

-Chris
EBF Rep
Mobile App

Great idea... Even a stim free can be of good use

[Airborne42]

For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
Or
Focus XT stim free + cbol

-Chris
EBF Rep
Mobile App

Great idea... Even a stim free can be of good use

[Airborne42]

Did NOT mean to double post sorry

[boogyman]

I like White Flood. Not to stimmy, I can add more stim if I like, and has most of the "preworkout staples" in it. I have been dosing 1 scoop with 2 RPM caps and having kick ass workouts. Just the right amount of stim for me, and a nice strength boost.

I also dosed COP preworkout for the first time today (4 SNS caps) and it seemed to help get an extra rep or 2 on my heavy sets. This will be my go to preworkout stack for the next few months.

Oh yeah. On upper body days I add 9 grams Cit Mal. I don't use it on lower body days, gives me horrible back pumps.

[dtrain13]

To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.

Agreed. Not needed IMO. However I can say that Prodigy is a kick ass product. It works quite well. And although a prop blend you can pretty much figure out its property dosed. All that said to the OP your current supplement regimen is enough. Food and the right food at that combined with training is what you should be concerned about.

[ryanp81]

Agreed. Not needed IMO. However I can say that Prodigy is a kick ass product. It works quite well. And although a prop blend you can pretty much figure out its property dosed. All that said to the OP your current supplement regimen is enough. Food and the right food at that combined with training is what you should be concerned about.

It does sound like a well rounded product.

[B3ast]

im going with totalis on this one,

LCLT, beta alanine, Citrulline malate, ALCAR, caffeine, Norvaline, and Tyrosine?

thats a damn good pre workout, if i want more caffeine ill just brew an extra cup of coffee >=), either way its a good buy IMO

ALSO, the site is providing 200grams of citrulline malate, not 200mg.

I am thinking of going with that one as well

[JonRubio]

To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.

Its the consumers responsibility to look at what their taking. Who cares, it's just another nomenclature. If you read the label and think this product has one of a kind ingredients, that's your fault for not being informed. And if your working out every single day in a month, your doing it terribly wrong.

[thebigt]

i say drink coffee as a pre...that way if a 16 year old gets heart palpitations while working out at least the f'ing fda knows better than to try and ban coffee-at least i hope they do!!!

this is the kinda sh i t that gets all the good stuff banned...i wish they would realize that no law is going to protect a dumbass from himself.

sorry op if you are a responsible 16 year old, but your age group is really screwing things up for the rest of us with irresponsible abuse of 'atm' legal products!!!

[B3ast]

i say drink coffee as a pre...that way if a 16 year old gets heart palpitations while working out at least the f'ing fda knows better than to try and ban coffee-at least i hope they do!!!

this is the kinda sh i t that gets all the good stuff banned...i wish they would realize that no law is going to protect a dumbass from himself.

sorry op if you are a responsible 16 year old, but your age group is really screwing things up for the rest of us with irresponsible abuse of 'atm' legal products!!!

I am responsible, and stay smart with the way i use supplements.

[ryanp81]

Its the consumers responsibility to look at what their taking. Who cares, it's just another nomenclature. If you read the label and think this product has one of a kind ingredients, that's your fault for not being informed. And if your working out every single day in a month, your doing it terribly wrong.

Jon, unfortunately it doesn't really pan out that way in the real world outside the realm of AM.com where supplement educated smart folk like you and I sojourn regularly. It should be the companies goal to list ingredients for what they are known as in the real world and not in the lab or research field. When I see of all things something like arginine being listed as 2-amino-5-guanidinovaleric acid instead of arginine on a label that makes me think there's window dressing going on. I'm not gonna call it deceitful because I don't know what the intent of PNI had listing it that way since every other product they have seems to have there ingredients listed as what they are in the real world.

We're not gonna see eye to eye and I respect that and with that being said I also respect the time you've invested logging products like prodigy and condense but for you to say who cares well it doesn't make me sound convinced. Btw what does working every single day in a month have to do with any of this ?

[AlexErdellan]

PNI prodigy all the way