Best Pre-Workout (cheap and effective)
- 12-09-2012, 12:32 AM
- 12-09-2012, 01:34 AM
im going with totalis on this one,
LCLT, beta alanine, Citrulline malate, ALCAR, caffeine, Norvaline, and Tyrosine?
thats a damn good pre workout, if i want more caffeine ill just brew an extra cup of coffee >=), either way its a good buy IMO
ALSO, the site is providing 200grams of citrulline malate, not 200mg.
12-09-2012, 06:42 AM
For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
Focus XT stim free + cbol
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12-09-2012, 07:01 AM
12-09-2012, 07:02 AM
12-09-2012, 07:03 AM
Did NOT mean to double post sorry
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12-09-2012, 08:43 AM
I like White Flood. Not to stimmy, I can add more stim if I like, and has most of the "preworkout staples" in it. I have been dosing 1 scoop with 2 RPM caps and having kick ass workouts. Just the right amount of stim for me, and a nice strength boost.
I also dosed COP preworkout for the first time today (4 SNS caps) and it seemed to help get an extra rep or 2 on my heavy sets. This will be my go to preworkout stack for the next few months.
Oh yeah. On upper body days I add 9 grams Cit Mal. I don't use it on lower body days, gives me horrible back pumps.
12-09-2012, 11:36 AM
12-09-2012, 12:11 PM
12-09-2012, 12:28 PM
12-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Its the consumers responsibility to look at what their taking. Who cares, it's just another nomenclature. If you read the label and think this product has one of a kind ingredients, that's your fault for not being informed. And if your working out every single day in a month, your doing it terribly wrong.Originally Posted by ryanp81
12-09-2012, 03:06 PM
i say drink coffee as a pre...that way if a 16 year old gets heart palpitations while working out at least the f'ing fda knows better than to try and ban coffee-at least i hope they do!!!
this is the kinda sh i t that gets all the good stuff banned...i wish they would realize that no law is going to protect a dumbass from himself.
sorry op if you are a responsible 16 year old, but your age group is really screwing things up for the rest of us with irresponsible abuse of 'atm' legal products!!!
GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!
12-09-2012, 03:07 PM
12-09-2012, 06:03 PM
We're not gonna see eye to eye and I respect that and with that being said I also respect the time you've invested logging products like prodigy and condense but for you to say who cares well it doesn't make me sound convinced. Btw what does working every single day in a month have to do with any of this ?
12-09-2012, 07:46 PM
12-09-2012, 07:55 PM
Very respectable comment and I understand completely where your coming from, I just believe if one is going to invest $30 or so on a product they should look up what their buying. But again your 100% when it comes to those noobs who don't tend to look things up. However, I will say that prodigy isn't available at G?C and is only available online. Most people who are noobs would purchase from a click and mortar store like the one I listed above. So the consumer who is purchasing prodigy is most likely a member of AM or another respectable forum who researches their stuff. And when I said working out every day, I meant this product should last you longer than a month since noone works out everyday. Some people only go 3-4 times a week which would mean it would last over a month. But all in all, give the stuff a try. It is IMO the best pre on the market today. I wouldn't of written this whole paragraph of it wasn't lolOriginally Posted by ryanp81
12-09-2012, 08:40 PM
You're 15.5 years old man; do you really see the need for a pwo? Or know for what purpose you want a pwo? If you must take anything I recommend staying away from DMAA containing products and sway toward low dose if not non-stim performance products. At your age, I see little reason for needing to consume the caffiene equivilent of 2 1/2 red bulls. Not advocating red bull usage pre, just a comparision.
imo focus more on the training; perfecting motor patterns and correcting form before you stim yourself crazy while simaltaneously squatting with knees buckling all over the place.
12-09-2012, 08:46 PM
At age 16 ( 15.5 isnt an age) I would not feel comfortable recommending anything. However I also remember being 16 years old and not listening to anyone lol. I recall with creatine first hit the market ( yes im old) we all were taking big scoops of powder and drinking Gatorade before football practice no one knew what we were ingesting ( 1996)
If you do end up going for a preworkout look at Hemavol non stim. or Ergopump NMT by ergogenix. Basic creatine, caff, cit mal products that are not overloaded with stims etc.
Ofcourse todays youth is diff than when I was that age we didnt have energy drinks or even good supplements lol
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12-09-2012, 08:51 PM
I won't recommend a prewo at your age bud. it won't hurt ya if you don't overdo it but it isn't necessary now. There's also no need to stack caffeine with a stimmed prewo. I was 22 when I first took a prewo...4 scoops later of original jack3d...Some of my best workouts are stim free
Like t-bone said- where do your parents stand on this? last thing you need to do is piss them off to where they won't even get ya protein powder
but to answer your question- purus condense. 40 servings for 24$
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12-10-2012, 05:38 AM
12-10-2012, 04:30 PM
12-10-2012, 05:10 PM
do some research on carbo loading....it's what marathon runners do in prep for a race...the same priciple also applies to your max effort days.
1st.. carbo depletion
2nd..the day before loading on stuff like spaghetti
thats a simplistic explanation, but there is tons of info available.
GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!
12-10-2012, 05:39 PM
No need to add caffeine pills to any of the listed pre workouts. That will over stimulate you CNS and dehydrate your muscles. Have you tried Epic?? Amazing pumps, vascularity, tastes like a jolly rancher, and you'd have no need to add caffeine pills as it offers plenty of energy.
Nothing I say constitutes medical advice. Please check with your medical professional before starting any diet or exercise program.
12-11-2012, 12:13 AM
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