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    Cool Looking for a new Anabolic supplement! Help


    So, I'm looking for a new anabolic/test booster/prohormone supplement! Trying to get the most hardcore product possible while staying "All Natural", meanin no Roids. Help me out here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    So, I'm looking for a new anabolic/test booster/prohormone supplement! Trying to get the most hardcore product possible while staying "All Natural", meanin no Roids. Help me out here!
    i will help you out..
    what you ask is kinda skewed friend.
    a prohormone is also a steroid..
    and - what is "hardcore"??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    So, I'm looking for a new anabolic/test booster/prohormone supplement! Trying to get the most hardcore product possible while staying "All Natural", meanin no Roids. Help me out here!
    Not gonna stay natural taking prohormones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    So, I'm looking for a new anabolic/test booster/prohormone supplement! Trying to get the most hardcore product possible while staying "All Natural", meanin no Roids. Help me out here!
    you obviously are misled or confused. test boosters and prohormones are not the same thing. PHs are not natural. Test boosters are. if you want the most hardcore PH, superdrol is where its at. for a test booster? many many options. no clear cut winner. everybody likes something different, although we can all agree DAA is the cheapest and most effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    If a natural bodybuilder does a steroid in the woods with no one around is he natural?

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    Basically I'm looking for the absolute strongest thing that will give me the most muscle increase without the need for PCTs and testicular shrinkage. Legal or illegal, doesn't matter. Trying to avoid side effects
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    Basically I'm looking for the absolute strongest thing that will give me the most muscle increase without the need for PCTs and testicular shrinkage. Legal or illegal, doesn't matter. Trying to avoid side effects
    Eatadrol and Liftobolan would be the places to start.

    Nothing is going to give you gains without effort, eat clean train hard, rest well. Even pinning test you still gotta push yourself hard and consistently and rest otherwise you will hurt yourself.

    First off start with a base wellness supp stack Multi, Fish Oil, Creatine, beta alanine, Preworkout, Protein. The biggest key there is going to be the preworkout it will help you push yourself in the gym while the rest will help your body follow. Train for a hard 6 months to a year, get to the point where the weight goes from easy to move to where adding 5-10 pounds makes it not moveable. When you've plateaued that's when you'll see benefit from test boosters but until you are there all you will be doing is pissing money out the window, they won't help you get there faster, they won't help you immediately break through that plateau when you hit it they won't have a noticeable effect aside from placebo until you've maxed yourself out.

    Also forget about prohormones, would you smoke crack? I don't think so, doing a prohormone is like buying cocaine and letting your body freebase it into crack. They are steroids, they are dangerous to your endocrine system, they are toxic to your liver, they may be legal to obtain but you need illegal substances known as S.E.R.M.'s to prevent estrogen in your body from causing you to grow tits and get fat when you stop prohormones, not to mention a whole regimen cycle products to help with the toxicity and post cycle products help your body get back to normal, and there is always the risk that your body might say F U and your testicles stop working no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    Basically I'm looking for the absolute strongest thing that will give me the most muscle increase without the need for PCTs and testicular shrinkage. Legal or illegal, doesn't matter. Trying to avoid side effects
    If you're straight looking to bulk up, check out Anabeta (or anabeta elite), and throw DAA in the mix. That stack is magic for me when it comes to natty gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    If you're straight looking to bulk up, check out Anabeta (or anabeta elite), and throw DAA in the mix. That stack is magic for me when it comes to natty gains.
    Just read the reviews, seems pretty legit, I'll try it as soon as my new acne treatment kicks in (Sns Inhibit-P). I don't wanna try anything new, especially DAA until I get that all cleared up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00S4Boy View Post
    Eatadrol and Liftobolan would be the places to start.

    Nothing is going to give you gains without effort, eat clean train hard, rest well. Even pinning test you still gotta push yourself hard and consistently and rest otherwise you will hurt yourself.

    First off start with a base wellness supp stack Multi, Fish Oil, Creatine, beta alanine, Preworkout, Protein. The biggest key there is going to be the preworkout it will help you push yourself in the gym while the rest will help your body follow. Train for a hard 6 months to a year, get to the point where the weight goes from easy to move to where adding 5-10 pounds makes it not moveable. When you've plateaued that's when you'll see benefit from test boosters but until you are there all you will be doing is pissing money out the window, they won't help you get there faster, they won't help you immediately break through that plateau when you hit it they won't have a noticeable effect aside from placebo until you've maxed yourself out.

    Also forget about prohormones, would you smoke crack? I don't think so, doing a prohormone is like buying cocaine and letting your body freebase it into crack. They are steroids, they are dangerous to your endocrine system, they are toxic to your liver, they may be legal to obtain but you need illegal substances known as S.E.R.M.'s to prevent estrogen in your body from causing you to grow tits and get fat when you stop prohormones, not to mention a whole regimen cycle products to help with the toxicity and post cycle products help your body get back to normal, and there is always the risk that your body might say F U and your testicles stop working no matter what.
    Can't find those two that you mentioned anywhere! Do you have a link so I can check em out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post

    Can't find those two that you mentioned anywhere! Do you have a link so I can check em out?
    Lol, he's messing with you. He's saying eat more and train hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    Lol, he's messing with you. He's saying eat more and train hard.
    I'm pretty sure if I ate anymore I'd be 300 pounds with 50% bodyfat. I eat as much as I possibly can without gaining significant amounts of fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00S4Boy View Post
    Eatadrol and Liftobolan
    nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    I'll try it as soon as my new acne treatment kicks in (Sns Inhibit-P).
    inhibit-P for your acne huh...

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    I'm pretty sure if I ate anymore I'd be 300 pounds with 50% bodyfat. I eat as much as I possibly can without gaining significant amounts of fat.
    you are 5-7 and 172lbs.
    you want something hardcore??
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    nice.

    inhibit-P for your acne huh...

    you are 5-7 and 172lbs.
    you want something hardcore??
    hardest of the hardcore shyte is right here...............

    food.
    it's everything you want it to be....
    While eating is good I think in general one should Not adhere to the food pyramid. It's rather pathetic to say a majority of your diet should come from grains. Yuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    While eating is good I think in general one should Not adhere to the food pyramid. It's rather pathetic to say a majority of your diet should come from grains. Yuck.
    oh aren't we literal this morning....

    of course the food pyramid was a flawed design from the days of disco.

    the gif presented the idea of FOOD adequately, i thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    oh aren't we literal this morning....

    of course the food pyramid was a flawed design from the days of disco.

    the gif presented the idea of FOOD adequately, i thought.


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    Well if this guy googled eatadrol and liftobolan he may take it to literally. Just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00S4Boy View Post
    Well if this guy googled eatadrol and liftobolan he may take it to literally. Just sayin
    indeed, i stand corrected.




    fyi - the food pyramid looks better like this:
    (except move the sweets up there with the breads)




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    this food pyramid sucks is it from the 70s?
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    eish. :

    do you like this one better because it is newer??



    c'mon guys - all food pyramids, propagated by the US GOV, are ridiculous and inadequate for the athlete/bb'er.
    the point was, solely, to learn how to eat.

    OP, no - do not learn your dietary discretion from any food pyramid. k?
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    Well diet will always be key, once there is a tight grasp on that there are some solid options. A natural anabolic a lot of guys are seeing some awesome recomping (build muscle & losing fat) in their 30day runs with Usplabs Patented Anabolic

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