From another forum post. Different product. Bro-science
Less is more with this product. I had to experiment big time when I was using phytoserms 347(btw would never pay that much again).
I was taking 3 caps a day -- nothing.
Took 2 caps a day --- felt more increase in testosterone related sides
took 1 cap a day --- boom sweet spot!!!!!!!!
Next time around I'm gonna do bloods just so I have hard evidence.
But please remember to dose bulbine the lowest you possibly can for your body weight.
I was 160lbs at the time (about a year ago), even half a cap or one full cap worked just fine.