Bulbine - We're bing ripped off, apparently

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Isn't Cahill attached to prolensis as well?
    I wouldn't doubt it.

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982
    No reason to carry on really. Just meant to point out the original post was an attempt by N T B M to discredit other products to promote their own (Common practice by them).

    I will check out now. I have no real skin in this game. You all are consumers and have that right to make up your mind on what to buy.
    That is absolutely retarded. I read his posts, his threads, he doesn't mention anything relating to ****..nothing
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  3. ignor prlensis - Bulbine in GENERAL, low dose blloods vs high dose is what we want

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    That is absolutely retarded. I read his posts, his threads, he doesn't mention anything relating to ****..nothing
    You are out of your element.. been here for a few months and believe you know AM history.

    You know why those letters were starred out in your post? Because they were here and AM brass seen the backhanded nature of the company.

    YG is a product of such, and was a rep when they were here. You can search that company name and YGs name and see he is still a member of that team.

    RLS is that company, of which puts out propaganda pieces to discredit other companies.

    Do I need to go further?

    I didn't even say prolensis didn't work... just not the underhanded tactics utilize to discredit other companies to promote their product.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    ignor prlensis - Bulbine in GENERAL, low dose blloods vs high dose is what we want
    Of which yes, Baker Stem in general... there is a median dose for each person that needs to be calculated. Each person has their own specific HED.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    googling shows iforce bulbine as bunk, try SNS
    we source our bulbine from the same exact people as SNS, its Prolensis..............the patented extract for bulbine



    just wanted to correct that. tropinol might be getting a facelift in the near future anyways
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    You are out of your element.. been here for a few months and believe you know AM history.

    You know why those letters were starred out in your post? Because they were here and AM brass seen the backhanded nature of the company.

    YG is a product of such, and was a rep when they were here. You can search that company name and YGs name and see he is still a member of that team.

    RLS is that company, of which puts out propaganda pieces to discredit other companies.

    Do I need to go further?

    I didn't even say prolensis didn't work... just not the underhanded tactics utilize to discredit other companies to promote their product.
    lol hating is bad for your health my man....your statements are not only ignorant but un educated as well....go play with ur skin or whatever your plan was
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982

    You are out of your element.. been here for a few months and believe you know AM history.

    You know why those letters were starred out in your post? Because they were here and AM brass seen the backhanded nature of the company.

    YG is a product of such, and was a rep when they were here. You can search that company name and YGs name and see he is still a member of that team.

    RLS is that company, of which puts out propaganda pieces to discredit other companies.

    Do I need to go further?

    I didn't even say prolensis didn't work... just not the underhanded tactics utilize to discredit other companies to promote their product.
    Well I will go look. Thank you for that info. I like that company and their products but I do not like little ****ing plugs for products. I just want good products from legit companies why does this have to be so difficult? I start to discredit companies that go around plugging their products if they are a rep for that company. They are better off saying nothing at all! Don't they get that lol!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    You are out of your element.. been here for a few months and believe you know AM history.

    You know why those letters were starred out in your post? Because they were here and AM brass seen the backhanded nature of the company.

    YG is a product of such, and was a rep when they were here. You can search that company name and YGs name and see he is still a member of that team.

    RLS is that company, of which puts out propaganda pieces to discredit other companies.

    Do I need to go further?

    I didn't even say prolensis didn't work... just not the underhanded tactics utilize to discredit other companies to promote their product.
    backhanded nature of the company ? this is not true at all.

    there was some issue with a mod of another forum that is owned or operated by the same people as AM. some issues occured on that site.

  10. 8mg/kg in humans is still too high IMO, and this is with in house testing we performed to back this up.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    8mg/kg in humans is still too high IMO, and this is with in house testing we performed to back this up.
    Any data sheets?

    I really hate the lack of bloods etc. with claims.. i almost want the FDA involved... but then they ban anything useful LOL

  12. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    googling shows iforce bulbine as bunk, try SNS
    its the exact same raw material, from the exact same supplier. 1 = 1
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Any data sheets?

    I really hate the lack of bloods etc. with claims.. i almost want the FDA involved... but then they ban anything useful LOL
    I am unable to provide inhouse testing information without the consent from the owner, however we found the sweet spot to be closer to 4mg/kg than 8mg/kg. 4-8mg/kg is the sweet spot.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I am unable to provide inhouse testing information without the consent from the owner, however we found the sweet spot to be closer to 4mg/kg than 8mg/kg. 4-8mg/kg is the sweet spot.
    It depends entirely on the attributes of the subject. BSA calculations on a man of 180lbs of pure LBM will differ from that of a 180lb fat male. The BW:height ratio is also relevant if you wanna get really specific. 8mg/kg is a fairly good starting point and then you can tailor the dose based on the individual.

    Hence, the beauty of bulk bulbine and the reason SNS offers such .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    backhanded nature of the company ? this is not true at all.

    there was some issue with a mod of another forum that is owned or operated by the same people as AM. some issues occured on that site.
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  17. One cap of SNS bulbine had a test boosting effect on me about the same as three grams DAA (which was great considering I seem to respond very good to DAA). I weigh 185 lbs. Il

  18. Interestingly... the bulbine has stronger effect as it wears off....my dosage is obviously too high at 2000mg. tomorrow ill try a 1/4 of what im on

  19. I recently tried SNS Bulbine for the first time and experimented with different dosages. My stats are: 5'10, 168 pounds, 31 inch waist, bf 11-13%. at 1 cap per day (350mg/cap), it was enough to elicit a test boost and I could feel the effects by week 3. I tried playing with the dose trying 2-1-2-1, 2-1-1-2-1-1, and 2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1 dosing. I found that 2-1-2-1 dosing was too much for me. At 2-1-2-1 dosing, I started to experience symptoms of super low estrogen similar to how I feel on 3 caps of PES Erase daily. I know I was probably past the peak of the bell curve and on the way back down. Recovery time increased, sleep quality was not so good, and libido tanked. When I reduced the dosage back down to 2-1-1-2-1-1 and 2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1, all the positive effects of the bulbine came back and were at or above 1 cap daily dosing. From trial and error, I was able to figure out that I had 3 possible dosing options: 1 cap daily which was more than adequate, 2-1-1 much better and felt increase in benefits with out substantial increase in dose, or 2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1 which is similar to the previous dosing scheme of 2-1-1.

    Based on my personal experience with Bulbine, more is not better. This is one product you really have to dial in dosage correctly for each individual, but once you find your optimal dosing range sweet spot, this stuff really shines. And because more is not better with this particular product, it makes for an incredible value for people who are under 200lbs. One bottle of SNS Bulbine can last me up to 60 days since I only need 1 cap daily if I really wanted to stretch it out and still reap the benefits. Another thing about Bulbine is that it takes time before the benefits become apparent. This product doesn't really begin to kick until roughly week 3 of usage, but once it gets going it really makes a difference.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It depends entirely on the attributes of the subject. BSA calculations on a man of 180lbs of pure LBM will differ from that of a 180lb fat male. The BW:height ratio is also relevant if you wanna get really specific. 8mg/kg is a fairly good starting point and then you can tailor the dose based on the individual.

    Hence, the beauty of bulk bulbine and the reason SNS offers such .

    /pimp

    Bulbine is quite the interesting supplement. I did use it with great results in PCT and was able to dose differently because I had bulk bulbine.
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  21. Interesting you got the same sides of pes erase with bulbine. With high dose, im literally ballooning with water retention. High dose ISA-TEST GF for example got dry joints and high aggression.

    Erase your libido drops a bit and your joints hurt on 3 a day, taper back to 2 for the sweet spot, for my body.

    Today, 1 tablet instead of 8... wish me luck, already feel miles better, last night when the others were wearing off, i got a boost of alfa male feelings.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus

    we source our bulbine from the same exact people as SNS, its Prolensis..............the patented extract for bulbine

    just wanted to correct that. tropinol might be getting a facelift in the near future anyways
    Hopefully the face lift doesn't resemble Joan rivers. Tropinal didn't do squat for me

  23. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Interesting you got the same sides of pes erase with bulbine. With high dose, im literally ballooning with water retention. High dose ISA-TEST GF for example got dry joints and high aggression.

    Erase your libido drops a bit and your joints hurt on 3 a day, taper back to 2 for the sweet spot, for my body.

    Today, 1 tablet instead of 8... wish me luck, already feel miles better, last night when the others were wearing off, i got a boost of alfa male feelings.
    Yes, i definitely felt the low estrogen side effects. Not quite as bad as 3 Erase daily, but almost there. Once I got those sides I immediately backed off the dose of Bulbine. Good luck with your run, but definitely scale back the dosage and start low. Once you figure out a consistent low dosage that works for you, you can try adding a little more at a time.

  24. Wow, well, after scaling back from 8 tabs to 1 I really feel the difference - its liek week 2-3 on erase on week 5 on ISA-TEST.
    1 tab a day from now on...thats 120 days for £20, cant beat that!
    In 24 hour, aggression up, libido up, water retention has gone down but about 60%, feels like other test boosters but on such a low dose.

  25. Just posting here to follow up this interesting thread. I've tried bulbine (from phyto) back in the time it was created (and was really expensive) nothing espectacular to mention in my case, maybe I was taking too much. Now with the cheaper alternative products (such as SNS), with a sensible dose and the positive reviews I'm reading here maybe I will reconsider it, at 150 lbs it is truly a cost-effective test boster for me.

    Regards.

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  27. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I am unable to provide inhouse testing information without the consent from the owner, however we found the sweet spot to be closer to 4mg/kg than 8mg/kg. 4-8mg/kg is the sweet spot.
    I remember you saying more test results were going to be revealed after the two you posted were both of hypogonadal males.

    I nagged you, you said they were coming but they never did.

    To this date I have still never tried bulbine.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc

    I remember you saying more test results were going to be revealed after the two you posted were both of hypogonadal males.

    I nagged you, you said they were coming but they never did.

    To this date I have still never tried bulbine.
    That's his way of telling it doesn't work Ben.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Wow, well, after scaling back from 8 tabs to 1 I really feel the difference - its liek week 2-3 on erase on week 5 on ISA-TEST.
    1 tab a day from now on...thats 120 days for £20, cant beat that!
    In 24 hour, aggression up, libido up, water retention has gone down but about 60%, feels like other test boosters but on such a low dose.
    Glad you were able to figure out a more effective dosing scheme. I was blown away too when I realized the amount of value that Bulbine offers. In terms of cost versus benefits, Bulbine blows away many other t-boosters.

  30. Just want to mention that I'm glad to see more discussion regarding Bulbine now though, because it was really hard for me to find out any info before I decided to give it a try. I was skeptical at first too, but after scouring the net for reviews on different Bulbine products and also getting help from Cooper, i am glad I gave it a shot as it has quickly become one of my favorites and a staple to be cycled throughout the year. I think this is one of those supplements that should not be part of a prop blend due to the fact that dosing for each individual will vary, which is why a lot of other products that include Bulbine get such mixed reviews. In the end though I'm glad SNS decided to make a bulk Bulbine product. Good Stuff!
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