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11-30-2012, 03:49 PM
11-30-2012, 06:18 PM
No. If you take issue with the data I have presented, I would be interesting to know how and why it is deficient.Originally Posted by PreciseNstuff
12-01-2012, 12:07 PM
12-01-2012, 08:39 PM
I find this thread highly entertaining. Didn't Sweet n low have a disclaimer on its packaging once? (maybe it still does, Idk).
But hey, I've used sweet n low. I've used splenda, and sugar, stevia, agave, sweet serum. I have no doubt every single one of 'em is bad for some be it allergies, insulin response, reactions, interactions or whatever the hell. Does that mean we should ban it altogether? If consumers wish to educate themselves, then they can. I remember first hearing of the "dangers" of sweeteners a while back and researched all of them. Saw no reason to call any of them the devil. If ya just don't like one, pick another. This is 'Merica! F yeah! Ya got a choice.
Sorry, my 2 cents. Please continue the entertainment.
Also have to agree with bioman, aspartame tastes like ish.
12-01-2012, 08:54 PM
For those that keep on about the FDA this and the fda that, well yeah it was a deadlock that was broken by just one vote, and some of those on this site claim this makes it correct. Obamacare was decided by just one vote so this makes it correct, and all Americans should agree?
What has happened to Merica.
12-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Horrible analogy that demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of your reference and maybe your worst attempt yet at backing up your argument against artificial sweeteners.Originally Posted by thills
12-02-2012, 12:16 AM
So, just to be clear: what are you objecting to-democracy, majoritarianism, or just any decision that does not agree with your personal tastes?Originally Posted by thills
If "90%" of supplement companies are making products with sweeteners you find (unscientifically) scary, maybe that is because you are in the minority & most consumers prefer lower calorie sweetened foods.
12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
12-02-2012, 07:49 AM
As for low calorie sweeteners there are many natural to choose from so, "that dog don't hunt". If it would be cheaper for the companies to ad no sweetener at all that would be fine, but then again I am one of those that can drink straight Cissus powder and not bat an eye.
12-02-2012, 11:02 AM
Oh "sports nutrition", not supplement companies-your argument is no longer dripping with illogic!Originally Posted by thills
You do realize that "real health food stores" are able to sell highly specialized products at a marked up price b/c they have a very narrowly defined market- unlike the broader one served by NP
---oh: and cissus can cause headaches & diarrhea. Wasn't that your major complaint vs artificial sweeteners?
12-02-2012, 05:21 PM
12-05-2012, 08:50 PM
I poop blue aliens from the blue raspberry dark rage
Like the color leeks from my poop. I thought I was dying. Then I realized it was just my pre workout
I agree with the notion to rid of food dyes and artificial ****
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12-06-2012, 09:34 AM
Please cut the coloring, I don't like pooping red or blue or green and seeing this stuff seep out of my excrement, I don't really care if it's healthy or how many studies you can link proving the safety of artificial colors, I don't like the user experience. Kudos to the many vendors that have already taken steps to meet my needs and the needs of individuals that feel similarly.
12-07-2012, 03:51 AM
12-07-2012, 07:32 AM
Anyway, the last Alphamine I had was fruit punch and it was a light pink color where most companies would have opted for a deep nasty red that leaves you looking like a little kid that just polished off a couple popsicles. I've got meetings to go to and presentations to give, so thanks PES for keeping it real. I think my Watermelon Hemavol is a similar acceptable color. I love both of these products, and there are whole heaps of people echoing that affection right here on this very discussion forum.
These are products for adults, dipping into the Fruit by the Foot color stock isn't a value added experience for the target audience. With a little tweak, Raspberry Lemonade Alphamine could resemble a sauvignon blanc, push a little further and you've got what could appear to be a quality scotch. Honey, which you'll find in a whole spectrum of colors, seems to illicit a natural hunger response. Apple juice, pineapple juice, pink grapefruit juice, white zinfandel, you get the idea. For the toys-r-us kids that don't want to grow up, how about something inspired by White Mystery Airheads? You might be right that stagnant pond water coloring may not have a natural appeal, but we could learn to enjoy it just like we most certainly did with "toxic waste" bright green.
12-07-2012, 09:09 AM
If I can shoot a mix of Cissus and Berberine, I obviously do not care what my product looks or tastes like. I just like that it works.
12-07-2012, 09:34 AM
I've read studies for and against quite a few compounds.
However unlike many guys on this board I am not educated nor do I work in the chemical field so I am not witness to any firsthand knowledge as to how most of them work in certain ways in tests.
Short of actually doing the experiments myself all I can do is research as much as possible, see what has the most positive reports and reviews, and hope I have no allergies or adverse effects. (The former docs can test for).
Comes down to what works for the person.
Some people have smoked for years and have little or no lung issues.
And people who have lived with them have lung cancer from the second hand smoke.
Different body chemistry and genetic markers.
Which also may play a part in the effects of reasonably safe compounds on individuals.
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12-07-2012, 01:55 PM
I prefer things to be as simple as possible so I too would like colors at the least kept to a minimum. I also encourage the search for alternative sweeteners based on sound science. I personally have no issues with any of the artificial ones so about my business I go.
12-07-2012, 04:21 PM
12-10-2012, 08:35 AM
12-10-2012, 08:48 AM
12-10-2012, 08:49 AM
12-10-2012, 10:24 AM
Ok, been a type1 diabetic for over 22 years, been around that fake sweet for a bit. Here is something that always stuck out, because I was told "it can make you sick". Was told way back in the day to not use aspartame in my coffee because at the hot temperature it changes to chemicals we shouldn't consume.Doc explained when sugar is put in hot coffee, its still sugar. When aspartame is put into the coffee, it turns to all sorts of other things. That is how it was always explained to me and in the topic of all being discussed, I have not seen this addressed (the chemical change from high temps).From a chemistry point of view, what is the science behind what was told to me as a younger kidů?
12-10-2012, 02:46 PM
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