What are your Top 3 must have supplements
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11-26-2012, 08:07 PM
Meh very few people call me James. My wife and mother are about it, to everyone else I'm Jim.Originally Posted by Celorza
11-26-2012, 08:10 PM
11-26-2012, 08:21 PM
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11-26-2012, 09:06 PM
Depends on what both of you are looking for....the ingredients in specifically PRIME or just natural herbs that are supposed to be beneficial to Test production?Originally Posted by jimbuick
I never liked prime, no studies....tribulus (any extract any kind) for the most part has let me down....cool libido, nothing else.
11-26-2012, 09:15 PM
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11-26-2012, 09:59 PM
Lol at "good deed". I stay pretty in the loop with this lifestyle. If you have studies I havent seen then please enlighten me of them.Originally Posted by thills
If you don't, then dont act as if you do. Simple enough.
In fact here's a good example of what you are doing:
You are trying to prove that leprechauns exist and say you have proof that they do. Someone asks you to show them the proof and you reply with "I worked hard to get this evidence find some on your own."
Very good way to prove a point.
11-26-2012, 10:40 PM
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11-26-2012, 10:47 PM
I agree with you. It does supplement a diet, but I consider anything with a caloric intake to be food, regardless of form (not saying whey replaces lean meat though)Originally Posted by actionhero
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11-26-2012, 11:12 PM
Jim is on the money here. The actives in question have research, just nothing applicable to bodybuilding.
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
11-27-2012, 03:49 AM
11-27-2012, 05:53 AM
That's fair. It didn't work for you.Originally Posted by theotherone55
Did you try the 69 protocol?
11-27-2012, 06:54 AM
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11-27-2012, 09:14 AM
"Infertile men ages 30-45"Originally Posted by thills
Also not sure what shilajit has to do with anything at all....
It isn't in prime and I was under the impression you had some groundbreaking studies on the ingredients in prime.
Also that is not a study. That is a website trying to sell product. As it turns out the full text could hold entirely different information than just the bits that are helpful to the seller.
11-27-2012, 09:25 AM
11-27-2012, 09:36 AM
Shilajit has proven to raise t level in multiple studies, and I used that simply as one example for you.
As to Prime, I do not know why you would be under that impression. If I had groundbreaking studies on the ingredients in Prime I would not have disagreed with you about the lack of evidence supporting it, which in turn charged you into informing me that the only worth while supplements with studies on them are Creatine and DAA.
I replied that this was not so and I stand by that.
11-27-2012, 09:41 AM
For those of you that actually believe half of these hyped products actually work to raise test, why not do a before and after run with labs to see if it actually worked. My bet would be that 95% would see nothing or the most minimal gains.
We know that time proven basics like creatine, citrulline, and beta alanine work, but all these test products? haha
11-27-2012, 11:09 AM
I didn't say the study was no good because a sales site is using it. I pointed out that the link you provided was not to any study and that the full text could be very different.Originally Posted by thills
Also note my comments about studies in young, active males in relation to the goals of bodybuilding and your rebuttal was a study on "infertile men ages 30-45."
How does that relate to bodybuilders or athletes for any sort of performance enhancement?
Thus proving my point that the majority of studies on supplement ingredients is not necessarily applicable to the majority of people that buy them as dietary supplements on this forum.
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