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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    Hope your not serious.
    I was but we can keep discussing it if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    I was but we can keep discussing it it you like.
    No reason to I was just dumbfounded by your reading comprehension.
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    -EPA/DHA
    -Magnesium creatine chelate
    -Creatinol-O-Phosphate
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    No reason to I was just dumbfounded by your reading comprehension.
    you asked what more I would want and that would be at least some studies supporting the effectiveness of the actives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    -EPA/DHA
    -Magnesium creatine chelate
    -Creatinol-O-Phosphate
    Creatinol did nothing for me. What do notice that puts it in the top 3
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    fish oil or krill, vitamin D, protein
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills View Post
    Creatinol did nothing for me. What do notice that puts it in the top 3
    Increased endurance, so I don't have to shave off reps when going into heavier weight, thus avoiding singles, and possibly getting doubles...Also decreased recovery time, which is ideal to get a better work to rest ratio.

    I found it most useful in the 3 week cycle of olympic lifting I did like a month ago, helps a lot when the dynamic effort and explosive movements are too many...at least for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    you asked what more I would want and that would be at least some studies supporting the effectiveness of the actives.
    I would like human studies on most of the supplements in this industry. Does not having them make them worthless when anecdotal evidence says otherwise? I say no but if that's how you feel then DAA and creatine mono is probably all you wanna buy bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Increased endurance, so I don't have to shave off reps when going into heavier weight, thus avoiding singles, and possibly getting doubles...Also decreased recovery time, which is ideal to get a better work to rest ratio.

    I found it most useful in the 3 week cycle of olympic lifting I did like a month ago, helps a lot when the dynamic effort and explosive movements are too many...at least for me.
    you back for good bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    you back for good bro?
    Yup , just needed a break...and to let my beaten up wrist to heal too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    I would like human studies on most of the supplements in this industry. Does not having them make them worthless when anecdotal evidence says otherwise? I say no but if that's how you feel then DAA and creatine mono is probably all you wanna buy bro.
    Contrary to common thinking many natural compounds do indeed have studies backing them. In fact the actives in Prime have studies backing them for certain conditions but not for what you will be using it for, unless you have issues with constipation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    Contrary to common thinking many natural compounds do indeed have studies backing them. In fact the actives in Prime have studies backing them for certain conditions but not for what you will be using it for, unless you have issues with constipation.
    Most are in vivo or in vitro or for the treating of diseases. Very few are on the populations that would use them for athletic performance and even fewer are for the purposes they are sold for in an athletic population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Most are in vivo or in vitro or for the treating of diseases. Very few are on the populations that would use them for athletic performance and even fewer are for the purposes they are sold for in an athletic population.
    Not true their are tons of studies of test boosting compounds, non-waisting "muscle sparing", energy/strength, the list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    Not true their are tons of studies of test boosting compounds, non-waisting "muscle sparing", energy/strength, the list goes on.
    In athletic populations in an age group of 18-28 (most likely to use) with an emphasis on athletic performance?

    Please link them. I'm always willing to learn more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    In athletic populations in an age group of 18-28 (most likely to use) with an emphasis on athletic performance?

    Please link them. I'm always willing to learn more.
    You seem like an industrious young man, rather than me "spoon feeding" you the info. do the research on your own, it may lead to even more questions and that is always a good thing. Question what is doled out to you as true and you may be surprised what you uncover
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills View Post
    You seem like an industrious young man, rather than me "spoon feeding" you the info. do the research on your own, it may lead to even more questions and that is always a good thing. Question what is doled out to you as true and you may be surprised what you uncover
    How about James shares an article with you right here, and you answer back with another one...so on and so forth . I think the community and James would like that very much, seeing how you both are industrious and educated males.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    You seem like an industrious young man, rather than me "spoon feeding" you the info. do the research on your own, it may lead to even more questions and that is always a good thing. Question what is doled out to you as true and you may be surprised what you uncover
    For those with poor reading comprehension this means, and I quote "I don't have any and am talking right out of my @sshole."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    How about James shares an article with you right here, and you answer back with another one...so on and so forth . I think the community and James would like that very much, seeing how you both are industrious and educated males.
    Kingjames is in here? I haven't seen him anywhere......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Kingjames is in here? I haven't seen him anywhere......
    Sorry Jimbo , I thought you would preferred being address by a normal name and not a nickname of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Sorry Jimbo , I thought you would preferred being address by a normal name and not a nickname of it...
    Meh very few people call me James. My wife and mother are about it, to everyone else I'm Jim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Meh very few people call me James. My wife and mother are about it, to everyone else I'm Jim.
    Duly noted Jimmy Boy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    For those with poor reading comprehension this means, and I quote "I don't have any and am talking right out of my @sshole."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Duly noted Jimmy Boy
    I've actually become quite fond of "Jimbo Slice"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    I've actually become quite fond of "Jimbo Slice"
    Seems legit, and doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    For those with poor reading comprehension this means, and I quote "I don't have any and am talking right out of my @sshole."
    Depends on what both of you are looking for....the ingredients in specifically PRIME or just natural herbs that are supposed to be beneficial to Test production?

    I never liked prime, no studies....tribulus (any extract any kind) for the most part has let me down....cool libido, nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherone55

    Depends on what both of you are looking for....the ingredients in specifically PRIME or just natural herbs that are supposed to be beneficial to Test production?

    I never liked prime, no studies....tribulus (any extract any kind) for the most part has let me down....cool libido, nothing else.
    Have you used Prime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    For those with poor reading comprehension this means, and I quote "I don't have any and am talking right out of my @sshole."
    no good deed goes unpunished. You can lead the horse to water but don't be surprised when instead of drinking he tries to eat the sugar in your pocket and takes a slice of skin as well as ruining your shirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    no good deed goes unpunished. You can lead the horse to water but don't be surprised when instead of drinking he tries to eat the sugar in your pocket and takes a slice of skin as well as ruining your shirt
    Lol at "good deed". I stay pretty in the loop with this lifestyle. If you have studies I havent seen then please enlighten me of them.

    If you don't, then dont act as if you do. Simple enough.

    In fact here's a good example of what you are doing:

    You are trying to prove that leprechauns exist and say you have proof that they do. Someone asks you to show them the proof and you reply with "I worked hard to get this evidence find some on your own."

    Very good way to prove a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actionhero
    I consider whey a food group more than a supplement.
    I agree with you. It does supplement a diet, but I consider anything with a caloric intake to be food, regardless of form (not saying whey replaces lean meat though)
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    Jim is on the money here. The actives in question have research, just nothing applicable to bodybuilding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    Have you used Prime?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherone55

    Yes.
    That's fair. It didn't work for you.

    Did you try the 69 protocol?
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