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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    About 9 times. Different doses, with and without caffeine, 1,3, even ephedrine. Crash with all of them. 3/4 is the closest thing I have found to a sweet spot but I am kind of tired of experimenting with something where I know I will crash after.

    I am very experienced with different stimulants but not so much nootropics besides some phenibut here and there. This was my first venture so I am not sure how the separate ingredients effect me yet. I am assuming it is the choline as everyone else has mentioned. I can't recall what other supplements I have tried with choline so I am not positive. I believe enhanced has choline in it as well but the yohimbe extract masked any other sides I would have noticed. Hypersensitive to anything yohimbe based
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Lol A for effort! Thank you for giving it a try man!!

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    Haha of course man it was worth a shot. Its not like the stuff is hard on the wallet or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Haha of course man it was worth a shot. Its not like the stuff is hard on the wallet or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    Good attitude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I drink coffee all day caffeine doesn't effect me: /
    Caffeine is like crack for me no joke lol!!! I take focus with caffeine and I get euphoric its crazy man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    Caffeine is like crack for me no joke lol!!! I take focus with caffeine and I get euphoric its crazy man
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    You smoking that crack pipe brah?
    Mehbeh... if DAT FOCUS is crack lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    About 9 times. Different doses, with and without caffeine, 1,3, even ephedrine. Crash with all of them. 3/4 is the closest thing I have found to a sweet spot but I am kind of tired of experimenting with something where I know I will crash after.

    I am very experienced with different stimulants but not so much nootropics besides some phenibut here and there. This was my first venture so I am not sure how the separate ingredients effect me yet. I am assuming it is the choline as everyone else has mentioned. I can't recall what other supplements I have tried with choline so I am not positive. I believe enhanced has choline in it as well but the yohimbe extract masked any other sides I would have noticed. Hypersensitive to anything yohimbe based
    Many folks report the same thing - including me. Anything more than 1/2 scoop and I just tanked my workout. I tried just about everything - CF focus XT is now something I use at work (1/4 scoop) when I need to host a meeting etc.. but it has no business in anything to do with my workouts. It's not the choline either, cause I take choline at similar doses and it does not bother me...

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