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    doctors prescribed humapro?


    wondering how the Cinnamon Apple Pie and Grape Jelly taste.

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    No MD in the right mind will prescribe humapro for anything.
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    I have been using HumaPro for over a year now, and have stopped using whey or other protein powders. I am happy with the results so far, nothing spectacular.

    I trust your opinion mr.cooper69 as I try to read all your posts on AM. It seems the industry is split in its opinion of Author, so say he's a genius and some say he's the direct opposite. Marc Lobline seems to think highly of Author and his products nowadays.

    Back to HumaPro. You don't think Author is on to something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    No MD in the right mind will prescribe humapro for anything.
    not saying they would, those two flavors are only available from what i understand if u get that version of humapro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    I have been using HumaPro for over a year now, and have stopped using whey or other protein powders. I am happy with the results so far, nothing spectacular.

    I trust your opinion mr.cooper69 as I try to read all your posts on AM. It seems the industry is split in its opinion of Author, so say he's a genius and some say he's the direct opposite. Marc Lobline seems to think highly of Author and his products nowadays.

    Back to HumaPro. You don't think Author is on to something?
    i actually really enjoy humapro too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    I have been using HumaPro for over a year now, and have stopped using whey or other protein powders. I am happy with the results so far, nothing spectacular.

    I trust your opinion mr.cooper69 as I try to read all your posts on AM. It seems the industry is split in its opinion of Author, so say he's a genius and some say he's the direct opposite. Marc Lobline seems to think highly of Author and his products nowadays.

    Back to HumaPro. You don't think Author is on to something?
    Have you looked at the profile? Humapro is just an EAA supplement...like the tons of other ones out there. Humapro just happens to benefit from unrealistic marketing and the naivete of the masses
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    100% Absorbed & 99% Utilized by the Human Body† -Whole proteins are about 95% absorbed so who cares
    Optimal Amino Acid ratio for human absorption† - No such thing
    Produces virtually zero waste† - Same with protein
    Outperforms whey protein by 501%† - No it doesn't
    Nets under 1 calorie per serving (only 0.004 calories per gram)† - Again, another blatant lie
    Promotes Nutrient Repartitioning† - Another lie
    Helps keep blood glucose levels stable† - In diabetics, bitter melon will do so, yes. However, EAAs are highly insulinogenic so this product will actually have the opposite effect
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    Lastly, you know you're dealing with a moron formulator if they put tryptophan in the same blend as BCAAs AND suggest using it prior or during exercise (free form tryptophan induces fatigue...which is one of the reasons that BCAAs are thought to buffer fatigue, since BCAAs compete with tryptophan for absorption).
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    Author is terrible....
    Warning on Dietary Supplement Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 (April 2009) - YouTube

    here is a link to the information about the drug that was spiked in his product
    Sibutramine - PubMed Health
    some of the side effects:
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    • you should know that sibutramine may make you drowsy and may affect your judgment, your ability to think, and your coordination. Do not drive a car or operate machinery until you know how this medication affects you.
    • remember that alcohol can add to the drowsiness caused by this medication. Ask your doctor about the safe use of alcoholic beverages while you are taking sibutramine.
    • ask your doctor about drinking coffee, tea, or caffeinated beverages while taking sibutramine. Caffeine may make the side effects from sibutramine worse."


    I took this stuff back in college and celebrated with some wings and three beers after one of my exams (I had take the product in the morning). I blacked out and semi came to in a strangers house yelling at me where I had passed out on the ground. I figured I had been slipped something somehow but it looks like it was the product.

    I have no respect for any of their products or Author.
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    mr cooper what u think bout chaind out?

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    Do yourself a favor and just mix SNS Citrulline Malate with USPLabs Modern BCAA. You'll get a way more effective product at a fraction of the price per serving.
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    ill give it a run
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Lastly, you know you're dealing with a moron formulator if they put tryptophan in the same blend as BCAAs AND suggest using it prior or during exercise (free form tryptophan induces fatigue...which is one of the reasons that BCAAs are thought to buffer fatigue, since BCAAs compete with tryptophan for absorption).
    Purus Labs has made AminOD and Author made this statement on FB:

    "Greg, I appreciate the heads-up but its NOT in the same catagory as HumaPro. AminoD lacks the correct human plasma matrix and ratio of all 8 EAAs plus 2 semi-essential amino acids required for protein synthesis, it is not a "Complete Protein Matrix" (You can not live on it as a sole protein like you can on HumaPro, you would need other whole proteins to supply the must-have-to-live amino acids tryptophan and methionine it does not have) plus it is not 99% utilized for protein synthesis (lean mass recovery and building), and would have way more than only 1% waste. It is more of a hybred BCAA for the most part...based on what the write up says. It looks well formulated for that purpose, at least IMHO. Possibly on par with Chain'd Out...but we would need a study testing the glucose conversion (finger prick and glucometer 30 minutes after ingestion) to say for sure. I doubt Brandon was trying to knock-off HumaPro, Greg. He does a good and respectable job of thinking for himself rather than attempting to make cheap knock-off products."

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    Whole protein, consumed either pre or post exercise, was proven inferior at enhancing muscle amino acid uptake and muscle protein balance when compared to EAA + Carbohydrate (CHO) solution taken at either of the same time-points (Tipton 2007).

    Consuming this 6g mixture 1 and 2 hours post, without CHO, was also shown to be 2x more impactful on stimulating net muscle protein balance when compared to another 6g blend of EAAs and Non Essential Amino Acids (NEAAs), much like whole protein (Borsheim 2002). This study was powerful as it proved there is no need for NEAAs regarding muscle protein synthesis (MPS), only EAAs. It also let us know we could drop the 35 CHO, as it proved they had no added benefit on MPS.

    Furthermore, EAAs, not NEAAs, were shown to individually stimulate MPS when administered in bolus dosages (Smith et all 1994), further sustaining that NEAAs are irrelevant.

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    The 6g EAA composition, used by multiple researchers as depicted above, served as our base structural formula for AminOD, as it was designed specifically to mimic muscle tissue amino acid content (Borsheim, et al. 2002) and had consistent human, oral research surrounding it.

    We chose to enhance the Leucine content based on Dreyer’s work showing Leucine enriched EAA + CHO formula, consumed post resistance training, increased mTOR activation leading to greater MPS (Dreyer et al. 2008).

    We used another, more current, EAA composition to determine AminOD’s amino acid ratios, with the goal of enriching the L-Leucine content within our dosage. This particular 10g EAA composition with 35% Leucine elicited a 33% greater MPS response compared to another 10g identical composition with 18.6% Leucine. The other EAAs within our composition are reduced parallel to this study’s ratios, to allow 35% Leucine enrichment (Pasiakos 2011).

    For inquiring minds, aromatic amino acids L-Tryptophan and L-Tyrosine do not appear within our formula, despite being essential amino acids. Researchers did not include these within their EAA spectrums possibly due to interference with anabolic branch chain amino acid (BCAA) absorption, as they compete for the same receptor, LAT1 (Large Neutral Amino Acid Transporter). The enhanced BCAA:Tryptophan ratio allows for increased BCAA transport and reduced fatigue. Additionally, Tryptophan is a precursor to Melatonin which promotes sleep; most users would find drowsiness as an unwelcome effect as this product will be consumed around training and/or throughout the day.

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    Also of note, BCAA’s have been shown to be anabolic on their own, especially mTOR stimulating L-Leucine, as well as fatigue delaying (Blomstrand 2006). BCAAs compete for the same receptor as Aromatic Amino Acids (AAAs)(tyrosine, tryptophan, and phenylalanine), therefore, consuming bolus amounts of BCAAs would increase your chances for their absorption over the AAAs. Increasing the blood BCAA pool would lessen the the amount of L-Tryptophan the brain can take up, thereby reducing melatonin production and reducing fatigue.

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    Humapro has become a staple for me over the last year or two, i didn't replace whey powder but i supplement my whey with humapro....i've also been using humapro intraworkout and really enjoying the results, i plan on mixing humapro with compete and should see excellent results
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    I have been taking humapro with beast creature , dextrose and taurine intra workout and like that combo.
    Cant comment on grape jelly, but sour grape taste like crap..
    They re formulated their sour grape or something, wasnt too bad in the black container...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Lastly, you know you're dealing with a moron formulator if they put tryptophan in the same blend as BCAAs AND suggest using it prior or during exercise (free form tryptophan induces fatigue...which is one of the reasons that BCAAs are thought to buffer fatigue, since BCAAs compete with tryptophan for absorption).
    No preworkout turkey. .got it... amino iv is a better choice. Liking the research on lemon ver
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    I wouldn't bank on alri's future with the hi-tech raid thar just happened last week.
    Did FDA find anything besides spiked Jungle Warfare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post

    Did FDA find anything besides spiked Jungle Warfare?
    Hi tech spiked alot of their products. I am surprised they haven't gone to jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    Did FDA find anything besides spiked Jungle Warfare?
    Doubt we'll see any more public details for a while, especially if (it's pretty likely) any of their findings lead to more criminal charges against the owner.

    But Hi-Tech, ALRI, and APS are all on the rocks after this.
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    Hi-Tech and ALRI are under the same ownership?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    Hi-Tech and ALRI are under the same ownership?
    Yes and APS

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    Hi-Tech and ALRI are under the same ownership?
    Sure are

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Sure are

    Thanks.

    I have never been interested in products from either of the companies (they always seemed a bit shady IMO) so I guess that why I had no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post

    Thanks.

    I have never been interested in products from either of the companies (they always seemed a bit shady IMO) so I guess that why I had no idea.
    I liked aps
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    Tl;dr

    Was any of the aps products spiked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Tl;dr

    Was any of the aps products spiked?
    We won't know that until more information comes out of the FDA. It would not surprise me though.

    They were using patented ingredients without paying licenses though, and that alone is enough to make me not like a brand
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    I ask only because in my closet I have their creatine nitrate, nitrozine and mesomorph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I ask only because in my closet I have their creatine nitrate, nitrozine and mesomorph.
    The mesomorph having DMAA in it would not surprise me in the least.

    They had millions of dollars of DMAA seized, and almost none of their products actually listed DMAA on the labels any more so...do the math

    That said, I wouldn't say that makes their products unsafe since DMAA is largely safe...just untrustworthy...
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