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Looking to try a new NO Booster. I've had some good results with hemodraulix, but I'm ready for somethin new and more powerful. Any suggestions?
 

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I'd look into iForce Hemavol (2 scoops) stacked with 1 scoop SNS Citrulline Malate or 1 scoop SNS Agmatine powder.
 
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honestly. try viagra or cialis sometime pre wo. its amazing. other than that i use bulk citmal, bet ala, lclt and gplc
 

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i have tried alot of stuff and honestly, no3 black chrome was the most effective thing i used, unfortunetly it cost a fortune so ive only run it once or twice.
 

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i have tried alot of stuff and honestly, no3 black chrome was the most effective thing i used, unfortunetly it cost a fortune so ive only run it once or twice.
Yok3d has a nearly identical profile
 

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i tried yok3d as well and did get nearly the same results, i think its probably the fact that nitrates are in chrome i guess, idk though.
 

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Agmatine is probably the best NO supplement I have ever used. It is also one of the most cost effective.
MHP Anadrox pumped me up pretty good; but had too many negative sides.

I still need to try Hemavol. I wasn't impressed at all with HemodrauliX.
 

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i tried yok3d as well and did get nearly the same results, i think its probably the fact that nitrates are in chrome i guess, idk though.
nitrates are in yok3d
 

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I'd look into iForce Hemavol (2 scoops) stacked with 1 scoop SNS Citrulline Malate or 1 scoop SNS Agmatine powder.
In your opinion is there a point if diminishing returns by adding more than one NO product together given they are effectively dosed? For example would taking 6g CM be close to as effective as 6g CM + 1g agmatine (or insert adequate doses of nitrates/gms/etc)? Or do they work through different pathways?
 
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In your opinion is there a point if diminishing returns by adding more than one NO product together given they are effectively dosed? For example would taking 6g CM be close to as effective as 6g CM + 1g agmatine (or insert adequate doses of nitrates/gms/etc)? Or do they work through different pathways?
Yeah, it really depends on the pathways that are being exploited. Agmatine would theoretically synergize with both citrulline and nitrates. Conversely, I wouldn't bother with citrulline if using nitrates. GMS does not promote NO production
 
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Condense. The only thing that compares in terms of pumps for me is AP with carbs preworkout.
 
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i tried yok3d as well and did get nearly the same results, i think its probably the fact that nitrates are in chrome i guess, idk though.
Strange..I tried Yok3D when it first came out and was very dissappointed

edit: never trusted the Yok3D prop blend either:(
 
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Strange..I tried Yok3D when it first came out and was very dissappointed

edit: never trusted the Yok3D prop blend either:(
Also had same results when released,I'm not big on prop blends.try to avoid when I can,but if it works it works sometimes!
 
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I'd say hemavol, no question. that or just pure agmatine + citrulline malate
 

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Carb Pumps + Blood Pumps are the best IMO.

Carbs + Anabolic Pump 1.5 hours pre-workout
2 Scoops hemavol pre-workout

SICK pumps and fullness, can't get much better IMO.

Mike
 
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Ya, Hemavol's my go to. Sick deal on nutra planet right now. 15 bucks off hemavol plus a free bottle of muti vitamins + a few samples of Compete + lifting straps. If you haven't tried Hemavol nows the time to do so.
 
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I like maniac, gave me the illist pumps , hemoval is prob most rep'd but i didnt get much from it. Maniac on a back - bis day made me feel like my skin was about to pop
 
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The best NO product is subjective. It is really hard to say what is the best because everyone responds differently. For me personally...GPLC by its lonesome is tha shiznit. I enjoyed hemavol...good stuff. However, currently this Purus Labs Condense is the real deal. From the few uses I have experienced this sh*t is amazing. It is one of the few products where the pump doesn't wear off and it actually delivers on the product claims as far as helping perform better in the gym and having long lasting results. :thumbsup:

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-
 

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Ya, Hemavol's my go to. Sick deal on nutra planet right now. 15 bucks off hemavol plus a free bottle of muti vitamins + a few samples of Compete + lifting straps. If you haven't tried Hemavol nows the time to do so.
I didn't realize that was stick going on.. BUMP THAT!
 

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Ya, Hemavol's my go to. Sick deal on nutra planet right now. 15 bucks off hemavol plus a free bottle of muti vitamins + a few samples of Compete + lifting straps. If you haven't tried Hemavol nows the time to do so.
That is a crazy deal. I may have to jump on that.
 
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Sildenafil citrate bar none. Otherwise I like 1g bulk agmatine
 

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I'm getting good pumps from ignite 2/crea-trona combo. Agmatine is one of the ingredients too.
 
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Ya, Hemavol's my go to. Sick deal on nutra planet right now. 15 bucks off hemavol plus a free bottle of muti vitamins + a few samples of Compete + lifting straps. If you haven't tried Hemavol nows the time to do so.
I can't believe that deal is still running! I picked up 3 of those "stacks". :) HemaVol is the shizz.
 

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I think iForce should just send me some Hemavol..... ;)
 
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I'd look into iForce Hemavol (2 scoops) stacked with 1 scoop SNS Citrulline Malate or 1 scoop SNS Agmatine powder.
Interesting...so you are suggesting more agmatine and citrulline on top of what's already in hemavol? Do you think I could do that at 175 lbs?
 

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Interesting...so you are suggesting more agmatine and citrulline on top of what's already in hemavol? Do you think I could do that at 175 lbs?
Yes, I'd be sure to get 8g citrulline malate (the clinically effective dose for weightlifting).
 

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Currently using AnaBeta, 8 grams SNS Citrulline Malate, and 2.5g Synthetic Supplements Agmatine Sulfate. Very good pumps in the gym and great muscle fullness, energy levels, edurance and mood throughout the day. I'll probably throw in some HGW 40% and or PES Erase since I have both lying around. But if you want a good all in one that has Agmatine, Citrulline Malate, and HGW as well as some nice extras then I would go with Hemavol as well.
 
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i heard that condense stuff was legit ;)
 
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[size=+5]STIMULANT FREE PRE-WORKOUT BIBLE[/size]

[size=+2]POPULAR INGREDIENTS[/size]
1. Agmatine Sulfate
2. Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine(GPLC)
3. Citrulline Malate/L-Citrulline
4. Nitrates – Creatine Nitrate, Arginine-Nitrate, etc etc
5. Arginine – AAKG, Ethylester, etc etc
6. L-Norvaline
7. Icariin
8. Glycerol Monostearate(GMS)
9. Creatinol O Phosphate
10. Arachidonic Acid(ARA)
11. Inositol Hexaphosphate

[size=+1]Agmatine Sulfate[/size]
By far the most “popular” stimulant free pre-workout ingredient available today. This ingredient was first released by MAN sports, and has since taken the supplement industry by storm since it has been included in countless products.
What does it do?: The average user notices enhanced pumps and performance from the usage of Agmatine Sulfate.
How much do I need?: Typically, Agmatine Sulfate is recommended to be dosed between the 500mg-1000mg range. While 1,000mg has been the “classic” dose, many users find that 500mg illicits impressive pumps on its own.
How do I take it?: Benefits of Agmatine Sulfate are most noticeable when consumed on an empty stomach approximately 30-60 minutes prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: Agmatine Sulfate can be purchased as a bulk capsules/powder, or it can be found in the following products:
1. iForce Nutrition – HemaVol
2. Genomyx – Protocol
3. MAN – Blueprint
4. APS – Nitrozine
5. iForce Nutrition – Maximize v2/Maximize Intense(Both contain stimulants)

[size=+1]Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine[/size]
One of the most hyped/promoted Nitric Oxide boosters in recent times, GPLC has taken a front seat in the stimulant free performance enhancement category. This is one of the few ingredients listed above that has clinical data showing increases in performance and Nitric Oxide. While this ingredient does seem promising, contradictory studies, as well as extremely high prices have kept it from making it into more formulas.
What does it do?: The average user notices enhanced pumps and performance from the usage of GPLC.
How much do I need?: GPLC was studied at 4.5g(4,500mg) in athletes. This amount showed NO/performance increases. Smaller doses were tested, yet did not yield statistically significant changes in either NO or performance.
How do I take it?: Consume 4.5g(4,500mg) 30-60 minutes prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: GPLC can be purchased as a bulk capsules/powder, or it can be found in the following products:
1. MHP – NO Bomb
2. STS – Nitrocarn
3. Jarrow Formulas – GPLC

[size=+1]Citrulline Malate/L-Citrulline[/size]
Yet another great ingredient brought to us from MAN Sports, Citrulline Malate has become one of the most widely recommended ingredients across the board. Showing promising science/anecdotal reports for NO, endurance, and overall performance, Citrulline Malate is hard to beat.
What does it do?: Citrulline Malate converts to NO in a 2 step conversion. In addition to helping increase our “pump”, Citrulline Malate also helps increase endurance.
How much do I need?: Dosage for Citrulline Malate varies depending on who you are speaking to. Traditionally, smaller doses have been provided in formulas, however as of late these doses are increasing. A dosage of 2,000-8,000mg is recommended. Keep in mind, too high of a dose can give users an upset stomach/and or bathroom issues.
How do I take it?: Consume 2,000-8,000mg 30-60 minutes prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: Citrulline Malate can be purchased as bulk capsules/powder or it can be found in the following products:
1. iForce Nutrition - HemaVol
2. MAN Sports – Body Octane
3. Neogenix – BodyForge
4. Omega Sports – Ultima
5. Millenium Sport – Ragnarok

[size=+1]Nitrates[/size]
The newest of the above ingredients to the dietary supplement industry, Nitrates have gained a lot of fans over the past year since their release. Originally seen from ThermoLife in the form of Creatine Nitrate, Nitrates are capable of lowering blood pressure and increasing NO.
What does it do?: The average user notes significant pumps from the consumption of Nitrates.
How much do I need?: Dosage for Nitrates vary greatly.
How do I take it?: Consume prior to exercise/sexual activity.
How do I get some?: Nitrates can currently be purchased only in complete formulas. Some products which contain nitrates are:
1. SAN - Fierce
2. ThermoLife – Pump-Bol
3. ThermoLife – C-Bol

[size=+1]Arginine[/size]
Arginine is the original “pump” product. Long heralded as the ultimate way to boost NO, Arginine has recently been shown to not be an effective NO product.
What does it do?: Arginine has uses, however none of which include NO.
How much do I need?: None.
How do I take it?: Don’t. .
How do I get some?: Please don’t.

[size=+1]L-Norvaline[/size]
Despite being available for decades, L-Norvaline is still one of the most effective “pump” ingredients available. Capable of boosting NO, while also allowing your body to surpass natural NO limits, Norvaline is a stimulant free pre-workout must.
What does it do?: The average user notes significant pumps from L-Norvaline.
How much do I need?: 50-250mg
How do I take it?: Consume 50-250mg 30-60 minutes prior to exercise
How do I get some?: L-Norvaline can be found in bulk capsules/powder, or it can be found in the following formulas:
1. iForce Nutrition – HemaVol
2. Controlled Labs – White Blood v2
3. Millenium Sport – Ragnarok

[size=+1]Icariin[/size]
The active component found in Epimedium/Horny Goat Weed, Icariin is a PDE-5 inhibitor and capable of increasing NO.
What does it do?: The average user notes improved libido/pumps from Icariin.
How much do I need?: Dosage varies greatly.
How do I take it?: Consume prior to exercise/sexual activity.
How do I get some?: Icariin can be found in bulk capsules/powder, or it can be found in the following formulas:
1. iForce Nutrition – HemaVol
2. Controlled Labs – White Blood v2

[size=+1]Glycerol Monostearate[/size]
A popular “pump” ingredient since Controlled Labs released “GlycerGrow”. Capable of forcing extra fluid into muscle cells.
What does it do?: The average user notes significant pumps from GMS. Some users do not like using GMS due to claims it can inhibit athletic performance.
How much do I need?: 1000-6000mg
How do I take it?: Consume 1,000-6,000mg with 24-36oz water 30-60 minutes prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: GMS can be found in bulk powder, or in complete formulas such as:
1. Controlled Labs – Glycergrow
2. iForce Nutrition – HemaVol
3. Controlled Labs – White Blood v2

[size=+1]Creatinol O Phosphate(COP)[/size]
While Creatine was omitted from this list, COP has become more popular as of late in pump products. Not to be confused with creatine monohydrate, COP offers the potential for increased pumps/performance.
What does it do?: The average user notes increased in pumps and endurance with COP.
How much do I need?: 1,000-3000mg
How do I take it?: Consume 1,000-3000mg prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: COP can be found in bulk capsules/powder. It is not currently available in non-stimulant pre-workout formulas

[size=+1]Arachidonic acid (ARA) [/size]
A truly incredibly ingredient, ARA was introduced to the industry through Molecular Nutrition in their popular anabolic product, X-Factor. Traditionally used for its anabolic effects, ARA can also increase NO and therefor pumps.
What does it do?: The average user notes improved strength, performance, and pumps from ARA.
How much do I need?: 250-1000mg
How do I take it?: Consume prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: Arachidonic Acid can only be purchased from companies who license it through Molecular Nutrition. These formulas are what is currently available:
1. Molecular Nutrition – X-Factor Advanced
2. Xtreme Formulations – Vengeance
3. Axis Labs – Hemadraulix

[size=+1] Inositol Hexaphosphate[/size]
Inositol Hexaphosphate is a carbohydrate found in numerous grains/high fiber foods. Capable of increasing red blood cell count, resulting in increased oxygen/nutrient delivery to muscles.
What does it do?: The average user will notice little using Inositol Hexaphosphate on its own, however it makes a great addition to any pump stack.
How much do I need?: 1,000-3000mg
How do I take it?: Consume 1,000-3000mg prior to exercise.
How do I get some?: Inositol Hexaphosphate can be found in bulk capsules/powder, or it can be found in:
1. MAN Sports – Clout

 
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Actually, I tried it and wasn't impressed at all - which really suprised me.

Interesting. I notice it works best with no food in the stomach and 1-2 hours pre workout.

Does anyone still use GPLC? I bought some in the nutra black Friday sale. It was popular when it came out but I rarely hear it mentioned now since agmatine seems to have the center stage now days.
 
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Yes, I'd be sure to get 8g citrulline malate (the clinically effective dose for weightlifting).
So you think 8g minimum? If not what amount. I'm wanting to try CM but starting to think buy in bulk will be better as I notably products have that much unless numerous scoops are used... Hemavol is only 2.5g per scoop I think
 
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Interesting. I notice it works best with no food in the stomach and 1-2 hours pre workout.

Does anyone still use GPLC? I bought some in the nutra black Friday sale. It was popular when it came out but I rarely hear it mentioned now since agmatine seems to have the center stage now days.
Yes GPLC is my favourite. You will hear much contrasting opinions and as someone said earlier, it's subjective. I personally love GPLC and for me even at half the recommended dosage (4500mg) it is better than Agmatine. Don't get me wrong Agmatine has its place and it works in synergy with GPLC as they both promote NO synthesis as well with agmatine being an irreversible inhibitor of Nitric oxide synthase.
For me I would use Agmatine in a stack but GPLC is a worthy standalone.

I haven't used CM, I'm looking for a product with decent/clinical doses of the three or a product with two and add the other

I was thinking Hemavol with GPLC

CM + Agamatine + GPLC.
 
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So you think 8g minimum? If not what amount. I'm wanting to try CM but starting to think buy in bulk will be better as I notably products have that much unless numerous scoops are used... Hemavol is only 2.5g per scoop I think
Or just forget about CM and go straight for L-Citrulline in High Volume.
 
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Or just forget about CM and go straight for L-Citrulline in High Volume.
I would love to buy High Volume......................................................... But I'm in the UK. Is it planned that we have it at some point??
 
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I would love to buy High Volume......................................................... But I'm in the UK. Is it planned that we have it at some point??
I would assume so. bdcc is in the UK and he just got a few tubs. JD would be the man to ask for sure though. I hate that our UK brothers miss out on some good stuff over here :(
 
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I would assume so. bdcc is in the UK and he just got a few tubs. JD would be the man to ask for sure though. I hate that our UK brothers miss out on some good stuff over here :(
Yeh it looks like a solid product with nice dosages, Would love to try. Who is bdcc and jd Yeh we seem to always be last :(
 

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