Best workout routine with Natty stacks

[DaveGabe24]

That is odd...I train with 2 National Raw champs and we use Westside and never have we been pulling or pushing (squat or dead) at max loads BOTH in the same week...well once ever 3 or so weeks...but never do it EVERY single week...I'm with Rodja on this one too :/

To be honest, unless you're at Westside, you're not doing Westside. The trickled down info on the webs or what guys do on their own, is usually just a bastardized version. Ask Travis Bell, or anyone whos actually trained with Louie. I agree, thats not the generic Westside we see, but my point was, if you're doing band/chain work that it's the same in my opinion (with regards to strain on the erectors).

[RicFlair]

Listen to Rodja, I've been running west side for the last 3 months and my gains have gone through the roof. There's also something to be said about the novelty factor of rotating exercises, and speed work done property has definitely contributed to bigger numbers in the big three.

[Rodja]

To be honest, unless you're at Westside, you're not doing Westside. The trickled down info on the webs or what guys do on their own, is usually just a bastardized version. Ask Travis Bell, or anyone whos actually trained with Louie. I agree, thats not the generic Westside we see, but my point was, if you're doing band/chain work that it's the same in my opinion (with regards to strain on the erectors).

Except for the fact that I train with a guy that has been to Westside on multiple occasions. Westside is a philosophy with basic guidelines, but it is not static. The tools and techniques that they use are constantly changing (as any good coach should) yet the same principles from the basic template are the same.

[Celorza]

To be honest, unless you're at Westside, you're not doing Westside.

Westside is a philosophy with basic guidelines, but it is not static. The tools and techniques that they use are constantly changing (as any good coach should) yet the same principles from the basic template are the same.

Yup I believe the Personal Trainer with years of experience, a myriad of knowledge and well written articles !

[DaveGabe24]

Idk what to tell you. Perhaps I overstepped saying the majority of people are doing it...but to state it like its fact is silly imo. Layne's had pull/squats in the same session...from a routine Dr. Zourdos has derived. So that's why I'm saying let's agree to disagree because although it may not be par for the course, it can be done.

[Rodja]

Idk what to tell you. Perhaps I overstepped saying the majority of people are doing it...but to state it like its fact is silly imo. Layne's had pull/squats in the same session...from a routine Dr. Zourdos has derived. So that's why I'm saying let's agree to disagree because although it may not be par for the course, it can be done.

That's not what I'm talking about at all. Like I said, I'm fairly sure that you completely misunderstood what I'm saying.

[DaveGabe24]

That's not what I'm talking about at all. Like I said, I'm fairly sure that you completely misunderstood what I'm saying.

Quite possible.

[Rodja]

Quite possible.

What I said was that it is a bad idea to squat and pull heavy twice in the same week per the proposed template.

[DaveGabe24]

What I said was that it is a bad idea to squat and pull heavy twice in the same week per the proposed template.

That's reasonable. Not to mention you're going to be limiting yourself to the recruitment of specific muscle fibers, and recruitment of certain parts of your CNS.

[AaronJP1]

Some good info in here.