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    Question Erase


    Not Erase pro, but Erase.

    What to stack with it? I stacked w/ creatine and felt a general puffiness. I don't want to go near DAA out of fear hair loss: Family history there.

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    Any test booster gives an equivalent risk to hair loss. Testosterone converts to DHT

    So why be opposed to DAA specifically?

    If you are dead set on not using DAA, I would use AnaBeta. But the combination of all 3 is delightful
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    AnaBeta plays well with Erase if DAA-Paranoia took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    AnaBeta plays well with Erase if DAA-Paranoia took over.
    Anabeta would be worse than DAA in OP's condition. DAA is honestly probably OP's best bet, as many effective herbs (fadogia, bulbine, anacyclus) come with mild androgenic effects. Erase solo will also elevate T just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Anabeta would be worse than DAA in OP's condition. DAA is honestly probably OP's best bet, as many effective herbs (fadogia, bulbine, anacyclus) come with mild androgenic effects. Erase solo will also elevate T just fine.
    that i didn't know, explains strength gains on AnaBeta though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    that i didn't know, explains strength gains on AnaBeta though.
    Does it? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Does it? lol
    Allow the Celly to enjoy his placebo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Allow the Celly to enjoy his placebo.
    I was asking why androgenic effects would explain strength gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Anabeta would be worse than DAA in OP's condition. DAA is honestly probably OP's best bet, as many effective herbs (fadogia, bulbine, anacyclus) come with mild androgenic effects. Erase solo will also elevate T just fine.
    Personally, I've never experienced androgenic effects from Anabeta. I only ever experienced enhanced body composition effects from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I was asking why androgenic effects would explain strength gains
    Don't higher Androgenic ratios in AAS mean strength gains, and higher anabolic ratios mean muscle mass? Was merely making the analogy to natural compounds...(don't slap me please...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Personally, I've never experienced androgenic effects from Anabeta. I only ever experienced enhanced body composition effects from it.
    Nor would I expect you to. But if one is predisposed to "balding," DAA would be the preferred route, but it's really semantics at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Don't higher Androgenic ratios in AAS mean strength gains, and higher anabolic ratios mean muscle mass? Was merely making the analogy to natural compounds...(don't slap me please...)
    We're talking about herbals. Androgenic effects like increased sperm count and motility, beard growth (fadogia), etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Nor would I expect you to. But if one is predisposed to "balding," DAA would be the preferred route, but it's really semantics at this point.
    I guess the point of my otherwise seemingly vacuous statement was to ask: while you say effective herbals usually are androgenic, is there data to suggest the same holds true for the specific anacyclus extract or family extract (anacyclus pyrethrum) in Anabeta?

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    beard growth (fadogia)
    Oh God, can't imagine supplementing my beard growth any further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    I guess the point of my otherwise seemingly vacuous statement was to ask: while you say effective herbals usually are androgenic, is there data to suggest the same holds true for the specific anacyclus extract or family extract (anacyclus pyrethrum) in Anabeta?Oh God, can't imagine supplementing my beard growth any further.
    Yes. All the data is in mice, which is why I'd expect mild if any effects in humans. For instance, bulbine shows certain effects on liver histology in mice that are apparently totally absent in humans as per a recent safety study.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yes. All the data is in mice, which is why I'd expect mild if any effects in humans.
    Imagine if people said the same thing about the compounds in Vida
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yes. All the data is in mice, which is why I'd expect mild if any effects in humans. For instance, bulbine shows certain effects on liver histology in mice that are apparently totally absent in humans as per a recent safety study.
    Much the same as the beneficial effects shown in mice then....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Much the same as the beneficial effects shown in mice then....

    Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Hahaha
    If he takes offence I am going to delete my posts and pretend you misquoted me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Imagine if people said the same thing about the compounds in Vida
    Longjack is a fertility aid! And I'm willing to bet anacyclus is too
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    DAA or Anabeta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorpKiller
    DAA or Anabeta?
    Stack them
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