Injury recovery supplementation.

[AdelV]

Hey all,

Looking for effective supplementation for injuries.

I currently had a CT and my last 2 vertebrae are bulged. I'm currently waiting for an MRI.

Im looking into different training programs, and exercises to strengthen the surrounding muscles, but am also interested in any diet and/or supplement changes I'm able to make.

Off course, currently taking Fish Oil amongst some other basics.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thank you

[Clemenza]

Hey all,

Looking for effective supplementation for injuries.

I currently had a CT and my last 2 vertebrae are bulged. I'm currently waiting for an MRI.

Im looking into different training programs, and exercises to strengthen the surrounding muscles, but am also interested in any diet and/or supplement changes I'm able to make.

Off course, currently taking Fish Oil amongst some other basics.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thank you

Last two vertebrae, do you mean L4-L5 / L5-S1? I have bulges in both. The only thing that got me better and stopped the miserable siatica was a legit Physical Therapist and like you said strengthening surrounding muscles specifically core.

When I get flare ups or any new joint pains I get right on USPlabs Super Cissus. Within a week or two pain is usually gone. Can't say enough about the stuff.

[mr.cooper69]

He must mean L5-S1. SNS Cissus XT is a great dual-action analgesic + anti-inflammatory. However, nerve compression at the L5-S1 juncture is no joke (namely the sciatic nerve as mentioned above, but also the major motor nerves supplying the gluteal region). You should be very careful in drawing the line between training the surrounding muscles and further stressing the vertebral column.

[bioman]

No fun. I actually have an extra L vertebrae..."lumbarilization of the sacrum".

Cissus and fish oil are good bets for sure. Possibly some turmeric/curcumin, high dose pycnogenol, rosemary, and ginger extracts. My mom uses New Chapter's ZyflaMend which has all those ingredients and more and she gets a lot of relief from her sciatica and knee pain.

An inversion table...done carefully and perhaps with some assistance, is great at relieving the pressure on the disks if you can't afford PT.

As far as training...thats where a physical therapist can really help you. I'd look into core exercises..planking, etc before attempting any sort of lifts.

[criticalbench]

He must mean L5-S1. SNS Cissus XT is a great dual-action analgesic + anti-inflammatory. However, nerve compression at the L5-S1 juncture is no joke (namely the sciatic nerve as mentioned above, but also the major motor nerves supplying the gluteal region). You should be very careful in drawing the line between training the surrounding muscles and further stressing the vertebral column.

Agreed.. personally i wouldnt touch the surrounding muscles. Sns cissus and joint help imo would both be great for anti inflammatory purposes though.

Mike

[baldwanus]

He must mean L5-S1. SNS Cissus XT is a great dual-action analgesic + anti-inflammatory. However, nerve compression at the L5-S1 juncture is no joke (namely the sciatic nerve as mentioned above, but also the major motor nerves supplying the gluteal region). You should be very careful in drawing the line between training the surrounding muscles and further stressing the vertebral column.

an anti-inflamitory you say? maybe something like paractin

Agreed.. personally i wouldnt touch the surrounding muscles. Sns cissus and joint help imo would both be great for anti inflammatory purposes though.

Mike

my thoughts exactly. Joint Help + Cissus on top of what he's already taking should be nice

[AdelV]

He must mean L5-S1. SNS Cissus XT is a great dual-action analgesic + anti-inflammatory. However, nerve compression at the L5-S1 juncture is no joke (namely the sciatic nerve as mentioned above, but also the major motor nerves supplying the gluteal region). You should be very careful in drawing the line between training the surrounding muscles and further stressing the vertebral column.

Really? Im very careful at the gym. I wear a belt for alot of sets.

It actually hurts more at work, as i bend & twist more. Its worrying tho, I need more scans & to see the spine specialist. I also need to find a good physio & rehab pt! I considered giving up weights too

It blows.

[mr.cooper69]

Really? Im very careful at the gym. I wear a belt for alot of sets.It actually hurts more at work, as i bend & twist more. Its worrying tho, I need more scans & to see the spine specialist. I also need to find a good physio & rehab pt! I considered giving up weights too It blows.

I wouldn't give up weights, but take it easy on your lower body (innervated by lumbar/sacral plexuses) and trunk obviously. Light chest work, superficial back work (traps/lats), shoulder, and arm work should all be ok.

[AdelV]

I wouldn't give up weights, but take it easy on your lower body (innervated by lumbar/sacral plexuses) and trunk obviously. Light chest work, superficial back work (traps/lats), shoulder, and arm work should all be ok.

I hate training light

No more squats? I dont want chicken legs! Haha.

[mr.cooper69]

I hate training light

No more squats? I dont want chicken legs! Haha.

Leg extensions won't help your legs grow too much, but they'll certainly maintain size.

[AdelV]

Leg extensions won't help your legs grow too much, but they'll certainly maintain size.

It that all I can do? Squats with a belt dont hurt my lower back tho.

My quads are 26", I dont want them bigger but i want to keep training my calves.

Would a rehab pt/physio go through this with me? Thanks for the info!

[muad33b]

It that all I can do? Squats with a belt dont hurt my lower back tho.

My quads are 26", I dont want them bigger but i want to keep training my calves.

Would a rehab pt/physio go through this with me? Thanks for the info!

You could prob do seated calf raises... a goo PT guy would definitely be a place to check out. I've made a couple of other posts recently regarding supplementation, therapy, and back issues here:

anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/215401-supplement-tendon-inflamation-3.html#post3681185

and here:

anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/215401-supplement-tendon-inflamation-3.html#post3682374

(add http: "slash slash" since I can't post links yet) that you might want to check out. Good Luck!

[Rodja]

Look into low-bar, powerlifting style squat. You're on the right track with using a belt for support, but remember to train the entire core and focus on movements where you are standing (e.g. DB side bends, standing cable crunches, trunk rotations).

[AdelV]

Look into low-bar, powerlifting style squat. You're on the right track with using a belt for support, but remember to train the entire core and focus on movements where you are standing (e.g. DB side bends, standing cable crunches, trunk rotations).

I had issues with squats even at 60kgs x 25 reps with no belt. If i wear the belt I feel no pain on a smith machine, i get up to 140kgs x 6 reps. I generally do 80kgs x 10 reps x 8-10 sets.

I am worried tho, I need to build my core without affecting it too much. I cant train hamstrings well either, really hurts my lower back. :/