stacking with pro hormones
- 10-21-2012, 02:04 AM
- 10-21-2012, 07:32 AM
use real steroids instead of no sience wierdo drugs thatŽve gone around the system and come out on the "supplement" marked.
10-21-2012, 07:32 AM
10-21-2012, 07:37 AM
Well I thought these would be not as crazy. Seems to me they are worse. What's a good newbie cycle and pct
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10-21-2012, 07:37 AM
10-21-2012, 08:07 AM
There is no safe nor harming things in life then not fully understanding the thing your doing. People are dieing of starvation, on the other hand people are dieing of eating to much. Take to much caffeine and you will die, to many vitamins and you will become sick.
You get my point, i would say that Testosteron is the safest steroid out there. Many people say its anavar and primobolan because they dont shut you down as much as testosteron does, problem is that this is a "chain" from the original testosteron molekyle, so you only get some effects out of it and not the fully benefitial effects that our body runs on, wich is testosteron it self.
Testosteron is made in the humanbody itself and therefore you will funktion normaly while cycleing it. Prohormones are just in my "oppinion" junk, alot of people get side-effects and cannot tell why, because there is not alot of research behind the "DRUG" and not medication.
As far as testosteron goes 250mg = 1ml normaly of testosteron ethantate, E is the ester of the oil wich will determen how fast it will absorb and how many times youŽll need to shoot to keep blood levels stabile.
Since the normal human body produces around 75mg + testosteorn a week, 250mg is going to be alot. This will make you body a muscle building machine, since thats what testosteron does. As far as side effects goes aggresion, which if you are a good human being can direct into alot of aspekts of life and get alot of good stuff out of it, work, gym, social life, sports ect.
Since your going from 75+ to 250mg a week your body will try to return to homostatis, thats why caffeine does not work for the rest of our lives after one cup, same as NO products it might work but your body will quickly counter act to be normal and stabile "homostatis" Since your the jump is so big, your body will increase aromatise enzyme, wich will convert testosteron to oestregene. Resulting in bloat, alittle higher blood pressure, and some strength since your body will hold more water.
This effect and be counter acted with alot of supplements that we are fortunate to have now, instead of using SERMs like nolva that a nothing but **** to use. So testosteron will in many ways make you a better alpha male and in the bed
The difference is that youŽll need to inject it, that only assist your liver in staying healthy instead of throwing a rock down there.
Im not going to advise you to use, steroids nor prohormones. If you go for either one, i would request you to draw blood so that you know your starting point, when cycle is finish wait 2months and redo bloods on cholesterol and hormones to see if everything has returned.
10-21-2012, 09:38 AM
What about test flu? You still can get sides from steroids, acne, hair loss, testicular atrophy, gyno it all happens reguardless whether its a "ph/ds" or "actuall steroids/injects" (proper ancillaries and bp/organs supplements help stave off most sides)
10-21-2012, 11:56 AM
well i cant list freaking every thing... Go look behind some vitamins or aspirine and look at the side-effects even, medicine for colds says they have side effects for heart, lunges, vomitting ect, again its about how you use it and you know what your doing. YouŽll know when you read about the testosteron, primobolan, winstrol ect. but Superdrol <- hahahah get me some clean medical facts other then extreme water retension and aromatasion.
I have used testosteron, and can literally say that i am very pleased with the effects. I gained what i wanted, its was somehow wonderfull, i even studied better "placebo i dont know" i had no side-effects at all... Bloods are good from beginning and nr2. 3. 4. 5. check are all goodies
I once tried Havoc and that **** gave me acne, little hairloss, shutdown, depression, sleepyness, since it is not testosteron and to function properly you need to have testosteron as a base. I gained 0.5kg by eating more then i would normaly, you get my point. It was not worth it for me nor me liver, since my liver values where FAKTt.. Throw a rock down there and let your lever get rid of it, it cant, so it lets go of more enzymes this stresses the liver and over time damages it.
For further knowlagde your welcome to research testosteron or other steroids on your own hand.
10-21-2012, 12:11 PM
10-21-2012, 02:18 PM
I do plenty of research, but thank you for the permission to further my knowledge. Obviously, there will be sides if a huge influx of vitamins, minerals let alone caffiene are consumed, nobody argued that so your point is moot. Beyond that its idiotical to state injects are basically sideless/less harmful than designer steroids, which CONVERT to active steroids or are already active in them self. The liver analogy i get, we all understand designers/orals stress the liver to some degree, theres plenty of bloods on the internet and on AM that show liver values that were outrageously high and some that didnt budge.Originally Posted by Profion
Test base with a designer is optimal, no argument there.
But, injects arent side free either
10-21-2012, 02:34 PM
I never said injects are side effect free. But if he wants to go the safest way with most sience behind that testosteron, and thats only possible with injections. If he is a millionare he could go test tabs, but those er expensiv.
Would like to see that, a prohormone that simply is active it self as "testosteron" it self, or is that something that the company sell on.
10-22-2012, 01:10 PM
and 2500 cals a day.
Jesus, this kid needs a brain enema. Probably not running any cycle support along with it either.
OP, here's what you need to do. Get a bottle of DAA, a bottle of erase, a bottle of liver assist xt, and a bottle of pct assist. Take those, and throw what you have in the garbage.
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