pros & cons of "pumps"? hemavol?

[Torobestia]

I was actually being serious with my post since it makes no sense, biologically speaking.

Normally it doesn't. I've been aware of theobromine, the metabolite of caffeine you're probably alluding to, for a while though. Ever since I was young, I always got "strange" effects from caffeine compared to others, and when I looked into it I found out the primary effects I get are related to theobromine. I guess I just metabolize caffeine faster, and much more so working out (don't know if the last statement is true or not, just a guess).

[d33zLBoy]

I have a few points of contention with vasodilation products.

Firstly, they are marketed primarily for aesthetic purposes. There are very few that actually utilize the full potential of vasodilation with the addition of nutrients (macro/micro) which take advantage of the increased perfusion that occurs between capillaries and adjacent cells.

People tend to associate stimulation with positive outcomes; a few popular products on the market have some level of vasodilation (usually in the form of AAKG) and caffeine (or previously DMAA). Respectively to provide you with an aesthetic pump and to stimulate your system.


Secondly, proprietary blends are a joke guys. The researcher/formulation expert who conducted the initial studies, that supplement companies utilize to formulate their products from also provide data as to the level of compound necessary in a product to elicit the appropriate systemic response. For example: research suggests that 3 Grams of AAKG is the minimum necessary to provide the user with the level of vasodilation that will yield a result or observable difference. Proprietary blends mention numerous amounts of product in their formulation without disclosing the exact dosage of each component. A friend of mine is a biochemist and has access to a gas spectrometer, he lab tested 3 popular vasodilation products, they contained between 1-1.6grams of AAKG. Far less than recommended by research to provide the user with the response they are hoping and paying for. Which may be the reason your not experiencing a real pump effect?

If your not feeling the intended effect of the product you payed hard earned money for, you may wish to try a product that provides you with the label of TRUTH. Steer clear of proprietary blends, they are for making profit. Not all are bad, use your judgement; does it claim to contain 50 compounds and cost 40$, probably not effective or grossly underdosed.

Sorry for such a lengthy rant but I've been in the fitness and medical industry for over 25 years in many facets.
It is VERY VERY profitable, do your research before spending your cash.

If your looking for a very good quality vasoproduct, there is a new boutique-type company producing a product called Tsunami Strike.
I think it's one of the best I have come across as far as results, the company is new and trying to make a mark in the industry. I have used over 10 poplar products, this IMO is the best and my favorite.

I am in no way trolling other products, merely explaining my perspective as others have done for me in the past. If I were a younger person starting out, I wish I had more advice earlier on in my career to guide me in the most productive direction.

[JD261985]

Just used 10 tablets of hemavol( 1 serving) with 1 scoop of jacked pre workout yesterday. Omg my muscles were engorged for hours..even an hour after my workout my muscles were filled..honestly it was cool but a little uncomfortable lol

[baldwanus]

Normally it doesn't. I've been aware of theobromine, the metabolite of caffeine you're probably alluding to, for a while though. Ever since I was young, I always got "strange" effects from caffeine compared to others, and when I looked into it I found out the primary effects I get are related to theobromine. I guess I just metabolize caffeine faster, and much more so working out (don't know if the last statement is true or not, just a guess).

im pretty sure coop was talking about "unique pump to it that localizes to muscle tissue excluding the extracellular matrix that causes that overbearing "swollen" feel." that

[Torobestia]

im pretty sure coop was talking about "unique pump to it that localizes to muscle tissue excluding the extracellular matrix that causes that overbearing "swollen" feel." that

Oh! I missed that post. Hahaha! It sounds like a troll post. I can't make any sense out of it.

[baldwanus]

Oh! I missed that post. Hahaha! It sounds like a troll post. I can't make any sense out of it.

well it wouldnt make much sense for a company rep to troll his own product

[Torobestia]

well it wouldnt make much sense for a company rep to troll his own product

The explanation he gave just sounds absurd.

Reminds me of a guy from another forum asking whether using a pinky rotation counterclockwise to the hypotenuse of the horizon was the most optimal for performing reverse-grip one handed cable tricep kickbacks.

[VaughnTrue]

The explanation he gave just sounds absurd.

Reminds me of a guy from another forum asking whether using a pinky rotation counterclockwise to the hypotenuse of the horizon was the most optimal for performing reverse-grip one handed cable tricep kickbacks.

can you find me a square muffler bearing?

[willib]

loved hemavol from the first time i tried it

[criticalbench]

loved hemavol from the first time i tried it

Dont we all

[d33zLBoy]

Never tried Hemavol, like I stated earlier.. If you like it use it. My message was of beneficence, seems as though you lost focus of all the other words in my post and targeted with a false assumption because I'm new. Thanks for the welcome.

[d33zLBoy]

Not my fault your lack of understanding what I posted is misconstrued as absurd. Considering the pms I received otherwise...
"Hemavol good, you bad" As copy and pasted from my pm...bwahahaha

[zv3]

Nothing works as good as Hemavol to me for pumps, nothing has even came close. I put Hemavol in the elite class of supps that work, and the label transparency really helps. This is the first sup that induces pumps so fierce that it seems to limit range of motion at times.

I love this stuff so much that I actually try to "save" it so that I don't use it all up!

[rhino67jg]

Agreed!

[d33zLBoy]

Totally understand bro. Maybe I'll give it a try watermelon sounds enticing thanks for the feedback. Curious why the reviews are not favorable though?

[VaughnTrue]

Totally understand bro. Maybe I'll give it a try watermelon sounds enticing thanks for the feedback. Curious why the reviews are not favorable though?

what? HemaVol reviews are 9/10-10/10 on almost every forum.

I wonder what company you work for

[Diesel0022]

I'd just like to clarify even though our names share a similarity, it is not me.

Just needed to make sure you knew that VT

[OrganicShadow]

what? HemaVol reviews are 9/10-10/10 on almost every forum.

I wonder what company you work for

Never heard a bad review.

[bdcc]

I have a love hate relationship with them for reasons described. When my arms, chest, back gets too pumped its difficult for me to fully peak out a motion. Now in some cases like the big lifts of squats, barbell rows, shrugs, bench press, etc this has little negative as I'm going for power but when more concentrated motions and stretching motions it can become a burden.

Check out N.O. Uptake - I'm a big fan of Hemavol (especially stacked with RPM) but NO Uptake has a very unique pump to it that localizes to muscle tissue excluding the extracellular matrix that causes that overbearing "swollen" feel.

Bump to the question clarifying this. I do not understand it.

[baldwanus]

what? HemaVol reviews are 9/10-10/10 on almost every forum.

I wonder what company you work for

my guess would be Pipeline Nutrition