Do fat burners really work/worth it
- 10-09-2012, 02:19 PM
- 10-09-2012, 02:35 PM
for me - makes heart race, messes with bp..has set off a panic attack or two.
(i'm hard-headed sometimes, and need to see the result numerous times before i learn my lesson)
synephrine did much the same to me, only on a greater scale.
ephedra/ephedrine, no issues with at all.
10-09-2012, 02:41 PM
Glad I asked. I started taking alphamine after it first came out and holy shiit I felt like crap heart racing, panic attack etc I've never had panic attacks so I obviously quit taking wasn't sure which ingredient it was but I have a better idea now. I took SNS Yohimbine this summer and noticed similar symptoms on a smaller scale, mostly anxiety which I just figured I was very stressed from work.Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0
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10-09-2012, 02:41 PM
Fat burners work directly in a small way (as far as actual increase in metabolism), and indirectly in a large way. - If you lack the energy and motivation to actually get through your training, you should see a large increase in drive/desire to get in and train.
Now, knowing that fat-burners work far better on an empty stomach, it can sometimes be difficult to justify for bodybuilders unless you're in a cutting phase. Since you guys eat so often, the timing off the product has to be dead-on accurate, because as soon as you take in a meal, you'll more than likely no longer feel the effects.
It makes sense that most pre-workout powders contain many (if not all) of the same actives you'll see in a stimulant/fat-burner pill.
The motivation to train can make all the difference. If I had to pick only one supplement to use for my lifetime, it would be a stimulant/fat-burner.
10-09-2012, 02:44 PM
10-09-2012, 02:45 PM
10-09-2012, 02:57 PM
10-09-2012, 03:01 PM
10-10-2012, 01:25 AM
I am not trying to get technical because I'm just trying to point out the fact that fat burners work and was using the fat burner patch as example. I guess I guess I could have recommend him to any other fat burner and would have said the same thing!Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.
10-10-2012, 01:32 AM
10-10-2012, 01:32 AM
And just making an assumption, do any of the supps target t3 & t4 production? I assume if you take a product that assists in lipolysis then one that stimulates t3&t4 production, you'd have a pretty good fat burner?
10-10-2012, 01:57 AM
10-10-2012, 11:54 AM
^^oooo love me some forskolin.
when i combined a fatburner with iForce TT-33 earlier this yr, all hell broke loose..weight just melted off me.
PES shift would be another option, a bit different..
imo - for me, i dont really care to mess with thyroid production, and will be cautious should i go that route again.
10-10-2012, 12:43 PM
Agreed, I've had my t3/4 checked before cause I had symptoms of hyperthyroidism and turned out not to be but if those are the symptoms of it I don't want it / hypo either.Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0
10-10-2012, 02:35 PM
At the end of the day .....
clen would be my number 1 pick
ECA would of course be 2nd
Never a fan of messing with thyroid....
I will also use yohimbine HCL --both oral and Topical --DermaTherm Target
Then let the diet strip most of it away... train high volume
10-11-2012, 02:59 PM
10-11-2012, 03:06 PM
I'm confused what your asking?Originally Posted by MattPorter
My bf is probably 12% I'd guess at 5'10" 227lbs
Ability to keep muscle when hyperthyroid?
10-12-2012, 04:38 PM
10-12-2012, 04:46 PM
Please don't go about self-diagnosing thyroid issues. Symptoms of hyperthyroidism are absurdly broad and applicable to a million different conditions.
"Oh, I can't gain weight! And I hate getting too hot and sweaty! And sometimes I get anxiety! Hyperthyroidism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!"
10-12-2012, 08:01 PM
10-12-2012, 08:39 PM
Hair shredding yes! But MPB in family hardcore. They checked my levels and they were fine. Just at first my general symptoms matched that of hyperthyroid.
Couldn't sleep, increased heart rate, palpitations and so on
10-12-2012, 08:55 PM
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