Thoughts on PNI Paragon?
- 10-01-2012, 10:08 AM
- 10-01-2012, 10:12 AM
Originally Posted by mattys4
Im always weary of new companys,nothing personal
10-01-2012, 10:58 AM
10-01-2012, 11:10 AM
No,i dnt like hugs from strangers or men,lol, unless there from my girl,i dont accept hugs, thnx for the offer though!Originally Posted by bigswole30
Then again,are these hugs free? Cause i might reconsider <3<3<3
I am positive PNI will yield fantastic results and i look fwd to the day i get to supplement with there products,"maybe even a sponsored log,unless there not confident in there product,cause i would be 100% honest",lmao(im just busting chops with that one ). They seem to be an up and coming great company with alot of promise.
Best of luck to PNI
10-01-2012, 11:11 AM
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10-01-2012, 02:34 PM
For Euonymus, we used an aqueous bark extract, at 20:1 concentration. (High in polysacharrides and triterpene/steroidal glycosides.) This is exactly consistent with the extract used in the only study which examined the effects of Euonymus Alatus on aromatase. For Urtica, we used a full-spectrum aqueous root extract. We can't claim 98% standardization to 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran - but, as we've all learned, most of those companies who have claimed to have a 98% extract were sorely mistaken. The extract we use in comes from a reputable source, seems to be highly effective, and is dosed properly.
As far as Vitamin K is concerned, we believe that it should have an effect, as long as the dose is high enough. The mechanisms of action are intriguing, particularly its effects on P450scc expression, and this may synergize well with the rest of the formula. It seems to work dramatically well in animal experiments, and the doses we use have been shown to be safe in humans. There's a big chance that it'll do a lot of good; there's a small chance that it won't help at all; but there's no chance that taking it could ever hurt.
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10-01-2012, 07:37 PM
COAs won't prove anything but writing back to copper about what extract it contains will?
I rather have seen COAs than a paragraph of something that sounds good
In a world of pimps, pastors, presidents and used car salesmen you need to do better than that to gain our trust
Good luck but your starting off in the wrong foot
10-01-2012, 07:44 PM
This community is not about shunning a new company, it's about learning, teaching and leading...and honestly you should learn to read, teach yourself a lesson with what you are finding and lead a more positive posting regime...all of you...not only just bashing a new company while you beg other companies for free supplements...This company is giving the industry a good try, instead of being so doubtful try to help the fellow american make it in business and before asking for stuff beyond your level of intelligence...try it yourselves and see if it works first hand.
>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
10-01-2012, 08:00 PM
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10-01-2012, 08:20 PM
With that being said let me know if you would like to personally try the product. If we did not stand behind our products 110% we would rely on fancy marketing and not word of mouth advertising. Based on NutraP's first week sales I think many people like what we have to offer.
Thanks everyone who has posted in this thread regardless of negativity. We welcome nay sayers as it makes the industry grow stronger!!!!
10-01-2012, 09:52 PM
All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously
**** Sports Nutrition Sponsored Athlete
10-01-2012, 09:59 PM
Nice your lucky broOriginally Posted by mattys4
10-01-2012, 10:17 PM
10-01-2012, 10:28 PM
Also I'm not even trying to be negative, I actually want to try this product. Just scares me when companies dont test their products, which is common with a lot of small companies.
10-01-2012, 11:05 PM
10-01-2012, 11:28 PM
I don't but there's people on here who does understand and there excitement after seeing such information holds more value than your word. The supplement industry is tainted stop the holy innocent Christian act cause its sad a grown man going the sad puppy face route as oppose to providing what a potential customer wants to see whether u feel its worthless or notOriginally Posted by Celorza
U willing to pay for blood runs an ship out free bottles but won't show paperwork
10-02-2012, 02:42 AM
COAs can be faked, and I highly doubt they want to show their source nor the lab that tested it. So in turn all you get is a document with a bunch of numbers saying that it is what they say it is.
If they're A.) Willing to pay for bloods and B.) Answering questions about their extraction procedures then it's enough for me to trust them and run one, or a few of their products.
Most companies don't even bother to show their face on the forums, and even further most use one or two ingredients in efficacious dosages in their products.
I'm pretty impressed by PNI's formulations, I was expecting to see the typical lack-luster, proven ineffective ingredients that I've grown accustomed too from new companies...
If you're skeptical, remain skeptical till more user feedback comes back on their products or take the plunge and decide for yourself.
However, I will say that I do know it took another reputable companies a significant amount of time to find a reliable NDMA source so I am curious how long it took you to find your source, if it is the same source, and the pricing difference...
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