ON PLATNUM PRE

[Jay888999]

ONs Platinum pre workout..Whats everyones take. i always liked ON,seem to make solid products.I have no complaints and never did.

[Celorza]

Garbage lol

[Jay888999]

Garbage lol

dude,i knew u were going to be first to answer,lmao and thats all i need to hear..I def wasnt thrilled buy it.but wanted confirmation.

[T-Bone]

I'd purchase it to try it out. Looks good to me.

[Celorza]

I'd purchase it to try it out. Looks good to me.

nothing special about it...citrulline , DMAE and cap?...meh...much better pre's out there...

[bono1132]

I like how they tried keeping people in suspense to build up for it... Amin.o. energy is a lot more interesting than this, price is a little high for what it is.

[mr.cooper69]

No ON formulation has ever been good

[LivFit]

No ON formulation has ever been good

None... Ever...???

[Jay888999]

ON been around for a long while.They are apparently doing something correct.

[Celorza]

ON been around for a long while.They are apparently doing something correct.

So have muscle tech and muscle pharm lol doesn't mean they are good, just means better marketing for people without the slightest idea of supplements haha

[mr.cooper69]

None... Ever...???

Care to name one?

ON been around for a long while.They are apparently doing something correct.

The companies that have "been around for a long while" are the ones that make me shudder

[LivFit]

[QUOTE="mr.cooper69"]

Care to name one?

Their complex, hydrowhey/builder, amino energy, they have pretty competitive creatine (creapure), their recovery 211. These are not products I currently take although have tried em. Just because you don't like the company doesn't mean there products are garbage. A countless amount of my clients have used their products and experience tremendous results.

[Celorza]

LivFit keep enjoying your placebo gains from user dosed Aminos and "OH SO NECESSARY PROTEIN SHAKE GAINERS!!" and please forget this conversation ever happened lol

[Jay888999]

So have muscle tech and muscle pharm lol doesn't mean they are good, just means better marketing for people without the slightest idea of supplements haha

I hate MT...but to be honest,id put ON above MT and MP ans BSN and Bpi...to be honest.There products are decent man. Not saying every product is great but there solid,more solid than the name mentioned above,way more

[LivFit]

LivFit keep enjoying your placebo gains from user dosed Aminos and "OH SO NECESSARY PROTEIN SHAKE GAINERS!!" and please forget this conversation ever happened lol

I forgot your knowledge base surpasses that of ALL the formulations put together by the ON team. No where did i say they are the best, as in my eyes i feel they don't even compete with the best, but their stuff works.

Placebo or not as long as they make gains!

[Celorza]

I forgot your knowledge base surpasses that of ALL the formulations put together by the ON team. No where did i say they are the best, as in my eyes i feel they don't even compete with the best, but their stuff works.

Placebo or not as long as they make gains!

That's the point to make gains, whichever works for you, hence I said forget it. On the formulations note, remember it is a business, and it is cheaper to sell cheap garbage to the uneducated masses and market it as a great novelty human greed and the forever need for money is why I'm right, aside my knowledge like you mentioned. Good day to you!

[LivFit]

That's the point to make gains, whichever works for you, hence I said forget it. On the formulations note, remember it is a business, and it is cheaper to sell cheap garbage to the uneducated masses and market it as a great novelty human greed and the forever need for money is why I'm right, aside my knowledge like you mentioned. Good day to you!

Ha yep you've figured it out... (Much to learn)

[Jay888999]

I have to say i have u can win in an argument against Celorza,while he is very educated and smart when it comes to this scientific thing,he is also very stubborn and wont let u win even if u are right,lmao. But he is a good sude with strong opinions and has helpes me out with some great supplementing tips!

Celly,my brotha its all love man.

[LivFit]

I have to say i have u can win in an argument against Celorza,while he is very educated and smart when it comes to this scientific thing,he is also very stubborn and wont let u win even if u are right,lmao. But he is a good sude with strong opinions and has helpes me out with some great supplementing tips!

Celly,my brotha its all love man.

All love in this brotherhood!!! It's all about growing here!

[Celorza]

I have to say i have u can win in an argument against Celorza,while he is very educated and smart when it comes to this scientific thing,he is also very stubborn and wont let u win even if u are right,lmao. But he is a good sude with strong opinions and has helpes me out with some great supplementing tips!

Celly,my brotha its all love man.

I know when I'm wrong, their stuff is basic and maybe not the best quality, the price they wanna sell it at and the marketing is what makes it garbage bro...like I said it is all about making gains and whatever works for you, no matter what I think, is what counts...I'll simply always debate an overpriced, or overhyped or misleading product...

And thanks Jay