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  1. Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    Yes, but you have to watch your dosing so you don't get too much cruciferocity
    This ^


  2. [QUOTE=LivFit;3635096]
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Care to name one?Their complex, hydrowhey/builder, amino energy, they have pretty competitive creatine (creapure), their recovery 211. These are not products I currently take although have tried em. Just because you don't like the company doesn't mean there products are garbage. A countless amount of my clients have used their products and experience tremendous results.
    Hydrowhey and builder are awful. Amino energy is one of the worst amino acid supplements available. Anyone can make a bulk creatine. And 2:1:1 is again awful unless you're an athlete with multiple glycogen depleting events daily.I actually do like ON, so please don't try to make this something personal. My judgments are objective, and your clients' results have nothing to do with the usage of ON supplements.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    I hate MT...but to be honest,id put ON above MT and MP ans BSN and Bpi...to be honest.There products are decent man. Not saying every product is great but there solid,more solid than the name mentioned above,way more
    Look at the new MT products. They blow away any ON formulations

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    your welcome manOn can be over priced,in a sense..There multi is good and use it often and always woek in conjunction with what i use.There protein is good as well,i have uses it many times.Fish oil and ZMA is priced fair and not bad either.ON is good for the basic simple things..But,if u are looking for serious gains then they arent the company and i agree with that.
    Optimen is a woeful multivitamin with misdosed and inferior forms. The fish oil has rather low EPA/DHA content, and anyone can make ZMA. Their protein is good; doesn't taste great, but it is quality.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Look at the new MT products. They blow away any ON formulations
    I actually will.For a long time,i was very anti MT and really still am.But now that you mention it.Im curious.

    MT left a bad taste in everyone mouth,well a lot of ppl and i personally have a hard time gettinf over it. I dont trrust them.I dnt even look at there products nor glance at them.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    I actually will.For a long time,i was very anti MT and really still am.But now that you mention it.Im curious.
    For sure, there is no doubt MT's older products were heavily marketed junk, but the new stuff is well-dosed and non-proprietary (albeit pricy).

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Look at the new MT products. They blow away any ON formulations
    Srs?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    Srs?
    Yes

    For instance,






  9. Not impressed, caffeine content is too high and that as a solo stim doesn't excite me. Some n-methyl-PEA or however you say that would be nice and some synephrine 30% would be nice too. I like less caffeine and another stim added; where is the creatine in there as well?
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yes

    For instance,





    What's with the insane dose of geranium and yohimbine in those?!?!?!?
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  11. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Not impressed, caffeine content is too high and that as a solo stim doesn't excite me. Some n-methyl-PEA or however you say that would be nice and some synephrine 30% would be nice too. I like less caffeine and another stim added; where is the creatine in there as well?
    Synephrine is worthless preworkout. Creatine has no place in a preworkout. Caffeine is not a solo stim in any of the formulas and n-methyl-PEA is bunk.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    What's with the insane dose of geranium and yohimbine in those?!?!?!?
    Yohimbe =/= yohimbine and geranium =/= 1,3 dimethylamylamine

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    your welcome man

    On can be over priced,in a sense..There multi is good and use it often and always woek in conjunction with what i use.There protein is good as well,i have uses it many times.Fish oil and ZMA is priced fair and not bad either.ON is good for the basic simple things..But,if u are looking for serious gains then they arent the company and i agree with that.

    Also a lot of people like flashy bottles and labels and 15 different ingredients that are barely pronounceable and ON just doesn't have that. I guess if your into that that's ok. ON does have fairly decent pricing on creatine and they have great quality protein. I don't often buy their products but when I do I use the Pro Complex protein or the creatine. I'm not going change my opinion of a company based other peoples belief that their products are "garbage" though. I've seen very little hype and marketing with ON products compared to a lot of other companies, so I really don't believe it is marketing that kept them around so long.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For sure, there is no doubt MT's older products were heavily marketed junk, but the new stuff is well-dosed and non-proprietary (albeit pricy).
    Mt tried and sell there product off cutlers face more than anything at one point,which made me sick. Cutler never impresed me,so being muscle tech had him,cant say I was shocked!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Also a lot of people like flashy bottles and labels and 15 different ingredients that are barely pronounceable and ON just doesn't have that. I guess if your into that that's ok. ON does have fairly decent pricing on creatine and they have great quality protein. I don't often buy their products but when I do I use the Pro Complex protein or the creatine. I'm not going change my opinion of a company based other peoples belief that their products are "garbage" though. I've seen very little hype and marketing with ON products compared to a lot of other companies, so I really don't believe it is marketing that kept them around so long.
    thats like i said,there doing something right.they been around a minute man

  16. I've always loved ON protein, never understood what anyone said about not having good taste... If you can drink pro complex and not love it then I don't know how anyone can ever make you happy. loved opti men till I crossed over to the dark side of Orange triad. Absolutely love fruit fusion amino energy. Not as a pre workout but really as an energy drink/soda replacement is I think really what it should be seen as. A way to get a pick me up and load some aminos with like 10 calories a serving, helps me stay off soda!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    ONs Platinum pre workout..Whats everyones take. i always liked ON,seem to make solid products.I have no complaints and never did.
    They were giving out some samples last I saw...
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Mt tried and sell there product off cutlers face more than anything at one point,which made me sick. Cutler never impresed me,so being muscle tech had him,cant say I was shocked!
    Yeah, there's a pretty funny video on youtube where Cutler struggles to keep a straight face while talking about his daily routine. "Postworkout I take 3 scoops of Cell-tech and 2 scoops of Nitro-tech."

  19. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    They were giving out some samples last I saw...
    When? The caffeine will peob give me some energy,but in general i wouldnt expect anything to serious,but woukdnt mind trying a fee samples for **** sake.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Yeah, there's a pretty funny video on youtube where Cutler struggles to keep a straight face while talking about his daily routine. "Postworkout I take 3 scoops of Cell-tech and 2 scoops of Nitro-tech."
    Lmao,its a joke man...i have a few of his dvds and he is always mentioning how on long flights he always has muscle tech proetein,w.e the **** its called with him for when he cant get a meal in. I will have to look for that video man,i cant stand him,hes arrogant and it annoys me and his genetics suck,so i dont know what id make of it to be honest,lol

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Lmao,its a joke man...i have a few of his dvds and he is always mentioning how on long flights he always has muscle tech proetein,w.e the **** its called with him for when he cant get a meal in. I will have to look for that video man,i cant stand him,hes arrogant and it annoys me and his genetics suck,so i dont know what id make of it to be honest,lol

    If you can't stand him, why do you have a few of his dvds?. It'd be cheaper just to purchase regular coasters.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone

    If you can't stand him, why do you have a few of his dvds?. It'd be cheaper just to purchase regular coasters.
    I have a few of his DVDs because my younger bro gave them to me.

    Ive watched both of them maybe 2 times each. But Branch Warren aggravates me even more,lol.

  23. Lmao get a life. You just replyed within 30 seconds. Not starting a pissin match. All I'm saying is your numbers speak for themselves. I'm no Ronnie Coleman but I don't try to be either

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jlpurkey View Post
    Lmao get a life. You just replyed within 30 seconds. Not starting a pissin match. All I'm saying is your numbers speak for themselves. I'm no Ronnie Coleman but I don't try to be either
    lol so you deleted your post , and then tried to shun me? Please tell me again what makes this Pre-workout worth the money it costs and how it matches to better formulas out there
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Lmao,its a joke man...i have a few of his dvds and he is always mentioning how on long flights he always has muscle tech proetein,w.e the **** its called with him for when he cant get a meal in. I will have to look for that video man,i cant stand him,hes arrogant and it annoys me and his genetics suck,so i dont know what id make of it to be honest,lol
    His genetics suck?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    His genetics suck?
    YES,they do. If you compare him to every other Mr O,absolutley..The guys frame is blocky and he is always holding water in his lower back n waist..

    Take a look at every Mr O since lets say 1985,then look at Jay.. in the world of Mr Os,he never should have won a O... Guys like Freeman and D Jackson are atill going,yet Jays retiring..Hes terrible,lol

  27. Pissing match? I'm in

  28. Quote Originally Posted by jlpurkey
    Lmao get a life. You just replyed within 30 seconds. Not starting a pissin match. All I'm saying is your numbers speak for themselves. I'm no Ronnie Coleman but I don't try to be either


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  29. Not impressed by it. Gave me a good push through my warm up but that's about it. I was waiting for t to kick in but... Nothing. Guess ill stick wit there protein!



    Back to beast mode!

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yohimbe =/= yohimbine and geranium =/= 1,3 dimethylamylamine
    Yes, there is no percentage listed so it is impossible to know how much you are getting as neither is standardized.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
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