Does creatine do anything?

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  1. Stay that way........

    After 20 + years of wasting a ton of hard-earned cash on the NEXT BIG THING and over-hyped CRAPP, I've finally learned

    99% of the garbage that comes out is just that, GARBAGE

    Sure, I take stuff but still wonder half the time......WHY!

    Food + Hard training = WIN

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Im like 3-4 months into supps,never used any since i been training. food,creatine,whey,multi and fish oil is all i ever took.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    After 20 + years of wasting a ton of hard-earned cash on the NEXT BIG THING and over-hyped CRAPP, I've finally learned

    99% of the garbage that comes out is just that, GARBAGE
    slow learner??



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  3. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    ive been off creatine for months now and havent noticed a difference, also stopped using beta alanine.
    i'm right there with ya.
    creatine is more a subtle, performance-enhancing compound, that helps in minute ways.
    it is not something one should 'notice' per se in an obvious fashion -- unless, one is a vegetarian whose diet is devoid of meat (red meat specifically).
    i don't know that i have ever 'noticed' my creatine use at any time.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Stay that way........

    After 20 + years of wasting a ton of hard-earned cash on the NEXT BIG THING and over-hyped CRAPP, I've finally learned

    99% of the garbage that comes out is just that, GARBAGE

    Sure, I take stuff but still wonder half the time......WHY!

    Food + Hard training = WIN
    absolutly bro.I agree.I learned all I know from my bro. All i stick with is the basics,to be honest.Food,creatine,whey,mult i and fish oils,thats what my bro told me all i need. So i still believe that,cause its proven.

    I like some pre,s..stim and no stim..

    I have also had some good results with a few runs of daa and erase.So im very picky with what i buy. If i use a product and it works ill stick with it.

    But i have been training for about 8 years. well i have for many years used no supps at all.just food and some caffeine and creatine and never had any problems gaining strength,size or cutting.

    there are plenty of all natty supps that actually work and i make sure those are the ones i stick with.

  5. cheap creatine monohydrate swells me up like a mofo!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there. Besides feeling like I has spiders crawling under my skin for hours on end, it didn't do a darn thing for me ergogenically

    Creatine on the other hand (in several different forms) has been great for me for many years (heck, decades).

    These days, I reserve it for when I'm cutting and attempting to maintain any sport of a pump and muscle fullness (especially given the fact I'm a low carber).
    What? Beta-alanine has an incredible body of evidence showing increases in performance, exercise capacity, body composition, and even longevity. Just because it didn't work for your particular phenotype does not make a blanket statement like that even close to accurate.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    I always cycle creatine.2-3 months on and about 1-2 months off
    Why? You don't need to cycle it.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    You don't become "insensitive" to creatine. You simply reach and maintain saturation, which is a good thing. You do not need to take a break from creatine.
    Thanks!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Randoja

    Why? You don't need to cycle it.
    Randoja,no reason imparticular.I take time off of everything,to be honest.Its always what i done.Also depends if i am eating a diet high in red meats ill lay off the creatine a bit. Id say i use creatine 8 months of the year.

    Alot of ppl go on and off.I think time off is goos,i do thi.k ur body will be come accustomed and it wont be as affective.Which i think would force you to dose higher. I could be very wrong,but this is bro science for me.I have learned what works for my body.Im nit 100% big on the scientific appeoach to everything.We are all different ppl and react diff. You have to find what works for you.

    In my expieriences,every time i syay off it for a while and get back on i seem to make some gains.So if it aint broken dont fix it.

  10. Creatine makes your muscles look bigger because of increased water absorption. Once you stop taking creatine, the excess water will disappear.

    Ellie

  11. Quote Originally Posted by EllieHarrison
    Creatine makes your muscles look bigger because of increased water absorption. Once you stop taking creatine, the excess water will disappear.

    Ellie
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    Lifespanmeds.com
    The effects of creatine are far more than temporary aesthetics

  12. Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    The effects of creatine are far more than temporary aesthetics
    I was going to say something similar.

  13. Where did I make ANY blanket statements with respect to beta-alanine

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What? Beta-alanine has an incredible body of evidence showing increases in performance, exercise capacity, body composition, and even longevity. Just because it didn't work for your particular phenotype does not make a blanket statement like that even close to accurate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there. Besides feeling like I has spiders crawling under my skin for hours on end, it didn't do a darn thing for me ergogenically

    Creatine on the other hand (in several different forms) has been great for me for many years (heck, decades).

    These days, I reserve it for when I'm cutting and attempting to maintain any sport of a pump and muscle fullness (especially given the fact I'm a low carber).
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  14. All i know is, what works for one doesnt for another, necessarily.This is why i like a mixture of science and personal hands on knowledge...

  15. Amen brudah
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Where did I make ANY blanket statements with respect to beta-alanine
    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there.
    Right there.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Right there.
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
    Lol I would never have APE...got my reasons why, but one of them is that I don't trust the "blood results".
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
    Right, which is why I said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What? Beta-alanine has an incredible body of evidence showing increases in performance, exercise capacity, body composition, and even longevity. Just because it didn't work for your particular phenotype does not make a blanket statement like that even close to accurate.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Right, which is why I said this:
    Fair enough

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Lol I would never have APE...got my reasons why, but one of them is that I don't trust the "blood results".
    What about the "blood results" makes you immediately dismiss it's effectiveness, without ever trying it? I really enjoyed the product when I took it, even after you told me it was a "garbage supplement."
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Randoja View Post
    What about the "blood results" makes you immediately dismiss it's effectiveness, without ever trying it? I really enjoyed the product when I took it, even after you told me it was a "garbage supplement."
    Haha because I doubt it completely and like I said , my reasons remain my own. If you loved it good for you, I know many people who swear by many things and well...Labs and analysis tell a different story ! I know this lifestyle also requires empirical and not only scientific research...but I place my bets on the scientific portion rather than the empirical in almost 100% of my decision. That won't change haha.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Where did I make ANY blanket statements with respect to beta-alanine
    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there. Besides feeling like I has spiders crawling under my skin for hours on end, it didn't do a darn thing for me ergogenically

    Creatine on the other hand (in several different forms) has been great for me for many years (heck, decades).

    These days, I reserve it for when I'm cutting and attempting to maintain any sport of a pump and muscle fullness (especially given the fact I'm a low carber).
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Right there.
    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirence

    A RARE comodity around these parts with all the sell-your-soul pimpping REPS
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  24. Uh oh - you just made a BLANKET STATEMENT

    LOL


    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge. Fools despise wisdom & instruction"
    Proverbs 1:7

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Haha because I doubt it completely and like I said , my reasons remain my own. If you loved it good for you, I know many people who swear by many things and well...Labs and analysis tell a different story ! I know this lifestyle also requires empirical and not only scientific research...but I place my bets on the scientific portion rather than the empirical in almost 100% of my decision. That won't change haha.
    Fair enough.
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    www.puruslabs.net

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Uh oh - you just made a BLANKET STATEMENT

    LMAO
    Lol,yes i technically did. Dont shoot me!!! :'(

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked

    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirence

    A RARE comodity around these parts with all the sell-your-soul pimpping REPS
    It is rare,i know ,besides u i voice my opinion with no problems.A lot of ppl worry about fitting in,instead of saying what they feel. Like i have said,i have had plenty of **** supps,plenty man.. The few i have had success with,i stick with.. a few pre workouts and a few other supps.Overall this supplement industry is a huge business and like anything is full of scammers. Just have to weed them out.Unfortunatley,its through trial and error man.
    Bro science is frowned upon,but i think u need both when giving an opinion on a supplement.Most ppl run with the masses and just say this works and that works,but have no fkn clue. If something is bogus and aint do dick for me,ill make it known. A guy like Cooper has used plenty through trial and error,so i def value his opinion.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked

    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirence
    Yeah, it is a blanket statement, whether you intended that or not. Perhaps what you meant to say was something more along the lines of, "I feel that beta-alanine was one of the most worthless, over-hyped . . . ", or, "For me, beta-alanine was one of the most worthless . . . " But to simply say it WAS one of the most worthless, over-hyped supplements ever is indeed a blanket statement, and a statement of fact rather than opinion.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirenceA RARE comodity around these parts with all the sell-your-soul pimpping REPS
    If someone goes and calls a supplement worthless and overhyped, there is generally something to it beyond basic anecdote. Maybe I misinterpreted your writing, but it looked to me like you were discrediting it from a science perspective (overhyped generally means that the advertising is not in line with the science). Anyway, you're good in my books. The industry needs more skeptics if anything.

    And not every supplement rep is evil

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    If someone goes and calls a supplement worthless and overhyped, there is generally something to it beyond basic anecdote. Maybe I misinterpreted your writing, but it looked to me like you were discrediting it from a science perspective (overhyped generally means that the advertising is not in line with the science). Anyway, you're good in my books. The industry needs more skeptics if anything.

    And not every supplement rep is evil
    To me over hyped means that something is highly praised and not as effective as ppl make it...There are a million ways ppl can interpet anything. Why am I the only ome who gets what he means?? Makes no sense to me.
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