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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieHarrison
    Creatine makes your muscles look bigger because of increased water absorption. Once you stop taking creatine, the excess water will disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    The effects of creatine are far more than temporary aesthetics
    I was going to say something similar.
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    Where did I make ANY blanket statements with respect to beta-alanine

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What? Beta-alanine has an incredible body of evidence showing increases in performance, exercise capacity, body composition, and even longevity. Just because it didn't work for your particular phenotype does not make a blanket statement like that even close to accurate.
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    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there. Besides feeling like I has spiders crawling under my skin for hours on end, it didn't do a darn thing for me ergogenically

    Creatine on the other hand (in several different forms) has been great for me for many years (heck, decades).

    These days, I reserve it for when I'm cutting and attempting to maintain any sport of a pump and muscle fullness (especially given the fact I'm a low carber).
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    All i know is, what works for one doesnt for another, necessarily.This is why i like a mixture of science and personal hands on knowledge...
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    Amen brudah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Where did I make ANY blanket statements with respect to beta-alanine
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    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there.
    Right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Right there.
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
    Lol I would never have APE...got my reasons why, but one of them is that I don't trust the "blood results".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
    Right, which is why I said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What? Beta-alanine has an incredible body of evidence showing increases in performance, exercise capacity, body composition, and even longevity. Just because it didn't work for your particular phenotype does not make a blanket statement like that even close to accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Right, which is why I said this:
    Fair enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Lol I would never have APE...got my reasons why, but one of them is that I don't trust the "blood results".
    What about the "blood results" makes you immediately dismiss it's effectiveness, without ever trying it? I really enjoyed the product when I took it, even after you told me it was a "garbage supplement."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randoja View Post
    What about the "blood results" makes you immediately dismiss it's effectiveness, without ever trying it? I really enjoyed the product when I took it, even after you told me it was a "garbage supplement."
    Haha because I doubt it completely and like I said , my reasons remain my own. If you loved it good for you, I know many people who swear by many things and well...Labs and analysis tell a different story ! I know this lifestyle also requires empirical and not only scientific research...but I place my bets on the scientific portion rather than the empirical in almost 100% of my decision. That won't change haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Where did I make ANY blanket statements with respect to beta-alanine
    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Beta-Alanine was one of THE MOST worthless over-hyped supp out there. Besides feeling like I has spiders crawling under my skin for hours on end, it didn't do a darn thing for me ergogenically

    Creatine on the other hand (in several different forms) has been great for me for many years (heck, decades).

    These days, I reserve it for when I'm cutting and attempting to maintain any sport of a pump and muscle fullness (especially given the fact I'm a low carber).
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Right there.
    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirence

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    Uh oh - you just made a BLANKET STATEMENT

    LOL


    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Cooper,but who is to say its suppose to work for 100% of ppl?

    Ive heard ppl say they have uaed creatine and havent noticed anything,which i find hard to believe,but everyone is diff.

    Just like u said u used APE and it did jack,yet **** loads of ppl swear its top of the line....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Haha because I doubt it completely and like I said , my reasons remain my own. If you loved it good for you, I know many people who swear by many things and well...Labs and analysis tell a different story ! I know this lifestyle also requires empirical and not only scientific research...but I place my bets on the scientific portion rather than the empirical in almost 100% of my decision. That won't change haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Uh oh - you just made a BLANKET STATEMENT

    LMAO
    Lol,yes i technically did. Dont shoot me!!! :'(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked

    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirence

    A RARE comodity around these parts with all the sell-your-soul pimpping REPS
    It is rare,i know ,besides u i voice my opinion with no problems.A lot of ppl worry about fitting in,instead of saying what they feel. Like i have said,i have had plenty of **** supps,plenty man.. The few i have had success with,i stick with.. a few pre workouts and a few other supps.Overall this supplement industry is a huge business and like anything is full of scammers. Just have to weed them out.Unfortunatley,its through trial and error man.
    Bro science is frowned upon,but i think u need both when giving an opinion on a supplement.Most ppl run with the masses and just say this works and that works,but have no fkn clue. If something is bogus and aint do dick for me,ill make it known. A guy like Cooper has used plenty through trial and error,so i def value his opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked

    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirence
    Yeah, it is a blanket statement, whether you intended that or not. Perhaps what you meant to say was something more along the lines of, "I feel that beta-alanine was one of the most worthless, over-hyped . . . ", or, "For me, beta-alanine was one of the most worthless . . . " But to simply say it WAS one of the most worthless, over-hyped supplements ever is indeed a blanket statement, and a statement of fact rather than opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Errrrr THAT's a blanket statement? Where I come from, that's called a PERSONAL OPINION......aka FEEDBACK based on MY "personal" expeirenceA RARE comodity around these parts with all the sell-your-soul pimpping REPS
    If someone goes and calls a supplement worthless and overhyped, there is generally something to it beyond basic anecdote. Maybe I misinterpreted your writing, but it looked to me like you were discrediting it from a science perspective (overhyped generally means that the advertising is not in line with the science). Anyway, you're good in my books. The industry needs more skeptics if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    If someone goes and calls a supplement worthless and overhyped, there is generally something to it beyond basic anecdote. Maybe I misinterpreted your writing, but it looked to me like you were discrediting it from a science perspective (overhyped generally means that the advertising is not in line with the science). Anyway, you're good in my books. The industry needs more skeptics if anything.

    And not every supplement rep is evil
    To me over hyped means that something is highly praised and not as effective as ppl make it...There are a million ways ppl can interpet anything. Why am I the only ome who gets what he means?? Makes no sense to me.
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    Come on manggg,....what are you the grammar police?

    I didn't "mean to say" jack. I said what I said and meant what I said.

    I'm not trying to remain political. I'm trying to participate in a forum where others view others' opinions about supplements and decide if that particular supplement is worthy of spending their hard-earned cash on or not.

    Candid posts like mine give readers a chance to see the non-solicited un-hyped side and realize some products STINK at times despite the pimping.

    Please don't attempt to put words in my mouth or to speak on my behalf.

    I think BA was ....as I said.....completely worthless. I am not 7 billion people - I am ME. That makes my comment an opinion.

    According or Dictionary.com, I properly used the word opinion and in context

    noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
    2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
    3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
    4. Law . the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
    5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.

    I get along with cooper VERY VERY well - always have and respect the dude and he knows this.

    He's still wrong here. So what.

    Be well

    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    Yeah, it is a blanket statement, whether you intended that or not. Perhaps what you meant to say was something more along the lines of, "I feel that beta-alanine was one of the most worthless, over-hyped . . . ", or, "For me, beta-alanine was one of the most worthless . . . " But to simply say it WAS one of the most worthless, over-hyped supplements ever is indeed a blanket statement, and a statement of fact rather than opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    What are you the grammar police?

    I didn't "mean to say" jack. I said what I said and meant what I said.

    I'm not trying to remain political. I'm trying to participate in a forum where others vew others' opinions about supplements and decide if that particular supplemernt is worthy of spending their hard-earned cash on or not.

    Candid posts like mine give readers a chance to see the OTHER wise and realize some products STINK at times despite the pimping.

    Please don't attempt to put words in my mouth ro speak on my behalf.

    Have they outlawed non-product-endorsing opinions?

    I think BA was ....as I said.....completely worthless. I am not 7 billion people - I am ME. That makes my comment an opinion.

    Accoridngt or Dixtionary.com, I properly used the word opinion and in context

    noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
    2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
    3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
    4. Law . the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
    5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.

    I get along with cooper VERY VERY well - always have and respect the dude and he knows this.

    He's still wrong here. So what.

    Be well
    Fantastic post brotha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    And not every supplement rep is evil
    Actually most aren't. Some really are though. haha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster
    Actually most aren't. Some really are though. haha!
    And your a rep,right? Lol
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    As stated.........see below

    Im with ya though. Several REPS are cool as heck and keep it real.

    Half/Most have so little shame in their game, it's repugnant.

    Actually, it's vomit-forming at times having many of them post on threads especially on their own products.

    I "get it". That's their job. BUT -it doesn't make me like it.

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    What should I use for PCT when coming off a creatine cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randoja View Post
    What should I use for PCT when coming off a creatine cycle?
    haha! Very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    As stated.........see below

    Im with ya though. Several REPS are cool as heck and keep it real.

    Half/Most have so little shame in their game, it's repugnant.

    Actually, it's vomit-forming at times having many of them post on threads especially on their own products.

    I "get it". That's their job. BUT -it doesn't make me like it.
    Fair enough. I have always respected your opinion & I understand.
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    Back at ya BUT I'll be watching

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    I'll be the first to admit this thread has gotten out of control. Stupid.

    I take responsibility for MY portion of the JAZZ

    Lets all move on...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    I'll be the first to admit this thread has gotten out of control. Stupid.

    I take responsibility for MY portion of the JAZZ

    Lets all move on...........
    The de-rail is what made the thread .

    Does creatine do anything? Yes.

    /thread
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    I love BA and you meanies can't take that away from me!
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    I will say this much. I just started using orotine which is creatine orotate and I love it!
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    Good point LOLOL

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The de-rail is what made the thread .

    Does creatine do anything? Yes.

    /thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Come on manggg,....what are you the grammar police?
    Yes.

    And regardless of your respect for Cooper and effort to accuse me of "putting words in your mouth", the fact remains that the misunderstanding between you two was born of your inability to effectively communicate your personal feelings as an opinion. No amount of rhetoric will change that. That's not to say you aren't entitled to an opinion; only that you didn't communicate it as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    If you are a heavy meat eater creatine won't have much effect.
    Do you have any idea how many pounds of UNCOOKED meat it takes to reach 5g of creatine? I don't think so.

    Hint: you'd have to eat almost 3lbs of raw meat to reach 5g of creatine. Fish i think would be around 1 pound (raw).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    Yes.

    And regardless of your respect for Cooper and effort to accuse me of "putting words in your mouth", the fact remains that the misunderstanding between you two was born of your inability to effectively communicate your personal feelings as an opinion. No amount of rhetoric will change that. That's not to say you aren't entitled to an opinion; only that you didn't communicate it as such.
    Lol let Whacked be , the idea presented in his signature can explain the reason for his theatrics and his posting style. It is ok to try to find oneself a role in a bigger play, for some believe that is the way their voice will be heard. Who's to say it is? Who's to say it isn't? If it be his happiness to enjoy the role of the skeptic lad, or the one of hating everything that does not go along his pantomime...well then who are we but meager men, to try to stop an elder chap to fulfill his heart's desire?
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    Hmm how about Creatine on cycle? Does it make a difference?
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    may have already been mentioned... not everybody responds well to creatine, i don't unless i add that ~100gms of sugary grape juice or similar to it, then it's effects appear nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by julius kelp View Post
    may have already been mentioned... not everybody responds well to creatine, i don't unless i add that ~100gms of sugary grape juice or similar to it, then it's effects appear nicely.
    100g of carbs will certainly improve anyone's strength and fullness . Try Magnesium Creatine Chelate if you are a non-responder to monohydrate.
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